Polar,

Um, America? Name any large company and it’s America based and tracking you.

Microsoft, Google, Apple, Amazon, Meta…

Meanwhile all of the services I use that do respect my privacy are from other countries like Switzerland, Canada, Sweden…

witchdoctor,

China and North Korea

LBRABO,

Every country in the world

birdcat,
@birdcat@lemmy.ml avatar

Idk. But I know a country where the VPN quadrupled my internet speed.

alldreadme,
@alldreadme@lemmy.world avatar

I was gonna say India but then I read the rest of the post lol

MagneticFusion,

Surprised more people are not saying China

colourlessidea,

Singapore is pretty bad as well

glad_cat,

It depends.

UK because of all the cameras in London. China because you need a VPN to browse the web.

forensic_potato,
@forensic_potato@lemmy.world avatar

For China, I would also add the social credit score which relies a lot on facial recognition…a real nightmare

glad_cat,

Are you a pedophile if you’re hiding your face for the glory of communism? I’m just asking questions.

shakcked,
vector_zero,

As I understand it, the social credit score was never actually put into place. It was mentioned once as an idea, and people took that as a commitment to implement it.

forensic_potato,
@forensic_potato@lemmy.world avatar

Thank you for the correction! I actually never looked much into it, so it was surprising to see how many misconceptions there are about China’s social credit system. Having said that, after looking more into it, saying it was never put into place wouldn’t be entirely correct either, apparently. Some people have been comparing it to the credit score system in the US and it seems quite apt from what I read. It is there, it simply isn’t a centralized system or an all-encompassing entity.

5ubieee,

There’s so many more comparisons to be drawn between the US and China than most in the west think, the credit system is a great example of that since a lot of people don’t realize how fucked it is in the US.

Just the idea of permanently ascribing a number to how profitable someone is for banks and dictating what opportunities they can get based off that number is horribly dystopian in itself, but people are so accustomed to it and have so many misconceptions to its purpose that there’s not nearly as much criticism over it as there should be.

Another part of it is the rigid west-east dichotomy that’s still brought up so often even as it’s become increasingly irrelevant in the past several decades, I’d recommend anyone who’s interested check out There Never Was a West, it’s a short read but I think it can be pretty eye opening and puts a lot of the modern day rhetoric about international politics into a broader historical perspective.

smeg,

That’s a pretty short-sighted read on the UK. We have serious issues with the Tories trying to undermine encryption, but the fact that there are a lot of 30-year-old non-networked CCTV cameras attached to businesses and residences is not really an issue.

glad_cat,

Thanks, I forgot this: “We want the master keys to Signal, and we put cameras everywhere because you have nothing to hide.”

smeg,

The government isn’t forking out to put cameras everywhere though. There are a few in city centres which I’d imagine local councils have to pay for, most are installed by private businesses just to protect their own property.

ijeff,
@ijeff@lemdro.id avatar

North Korea

howrar,

Do they even have the technology to invade your privacy the same way we do in the more developed parts of the world?

Cube6392,

No, so they invade it in simpler, more pervasive, ways

Cheradenine,

Though access is limited, they do have the tech thanks to their friends to the north. I can’t find the link, but they have their own Great Firewall implementation

Imprint9816,

Lol this country has some of the best state sponsored hacking groups and the ability to build nuclear weapon. Its not like they are living under a rock technologically.

The government just doesn’t provide much of anything to its citizens as a form of control.

howrar,

I’m not saying the expertise doesn’t exist. The point is that so much of our personal information is given up because of how technology is ingrained in our every day lives, so every move you make is recorded somewhere. If the general population doesn’t have that kind of access to technology, then you can’t record their every movement.

XEAL,

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