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just saying there’s an active defed nom thread for these shitlords in /c/hexbear

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That said, wars of aggression are a crime as per the UN’s standpoint, and only one side is taking territory

launch artillery blitz on ethnic minority region after spending five years restricting their rights

Other signatory to the ceasefire retaliates

this is ruZZia’s genocidal war of aggression!

jagoff

On the other hand, if UA strikes Russian targets - as they are at war - why is that a NATO escalation? Why is that not a UA escalation? Proxy war | Definition, History, Examples, & Risks | Britannica

It is beyond fucking ridiculous that after sending hundreds of billions of dollars in military equipment to a backwards colony of neo-nazis with the explicit purpose of attacking Russia, to claim that they are acting independently, and that there is no link to NATO.

Storm Shadows, Illegal cluster munitions, Leopards, Abrams, Depleted uranium shells, 155m artillery, and HIMARS are all manufactured from NATO stockpiles. If not for nato, the war would have been over in less than a month, and none of the infrastructure damage in the subsequent two years would have happened, to talk nothing of how the most fertile farmland in Europe is now contaminated thoroughly with landmines, heavy metals, and unexploded bombs.

And where else can you escalate after the Russians tried to take their capital and kill their leadership?

Russian mainland was not being bombed. Russian mainland is now being bombed. If you do not see how that change escalates the conflict, you would do well to remove your head from the sand. Beyond that, deliberate targeting of civilian areas is a war crime. The electric grid has military significance in a way that random border towns do not. It is asinine to say that Russia is the party deliberately targeting civilians when they launch https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-russia-airstrikes-intl-hnk/index.html missile volleys with <40 civilian deaths. Contrast the ukranian drone attacks on border towns which regularly kill dozens in a single town, and the “”““DAESH””“” attack on the concert hall with almost 200 civilians killed, where the attackers fled towards ukraine in a complete opposite of every other confirmed DAESH attack where the attackers stayed behind to inflict maximum casualties.

At this point if UA had Moscow under siege and sent entire regiments of special forces after Putin personally, even that would just be proportionate retaliation.

A scenario that would 500% result in the use of nuclear weapons is not proportionate retaliation ya dingus.

And that would be a Really Bad Thing™ if France was deploying troops into an unwilling country. Poland, Estonia and Hungary all have US troops stationed there ever since they managed to get the Russian troops out. They have their reasons. UA has all the rights to invite foreign troops as much as they want into their sovereign territory. Russia has no say in who gets to deploy into Ukraine, Ukraine alone does.

Were you cheering on the incursion of Saudi forces into Bahrain in 2011? The government asked for the protesters to all be murdered, so it’s a good thing, right? The only factor in the ethics and/or rationality of a military deployment is if the troops were invited. /s

So to be clear, we have gone from “NATO has absolutely nothing to do with this conflict despite the overwhelming majority of offensive materiel coming from them” to “NATO boots on the ground are good because they were invited”. Some logical consistency would be nice, but I suppose that is too much to expect from a nazi apologist.

You made a deeply ignorant post.

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