In my Dutch/British East India Co example it is whataboutism because the purpose of brining up the Dutch East India company is to divert from the subject at hand. In your examples you ARE providing context and are not trying to change the subject so your examples are not examples of whataboutism and that is why you are not understanding what “whataboutism” is and why it is a fallacy.
If I said the USSR was authoritarian and therefore did not represent the will of the masses and you said “what about British the monarchy” and then tried to focus on that discussion then that would ge whataboutism.
Whataboutism is not about providing context through contrasting examples. It is a diversionary tactic for when you cannot address the claims made.
Im not being a hypocrite. You just don’t understand what whataboutism is as you have proved with your examples which once again are not examples of whataboutism.
No it doesn’t. The intent is obvious as a counter example works in context and isn’t a diversionary tactic.
If the topic is Donald Trump’s role in the insurrection on 1/6/21 and you say “but whatabout Hilary’s email’s?” that’s whataboutism because Hilary’s email scandal is unrelated.
If you instead said “what about the fact that Trump never appeared with the crowd outside the designated permitted spot and never told anyone to riot?” that would not be whataboutism because it is relevant.
Context is everything. Whataboutism is a fallacy and that is why. It does not make an argument flow from premise to conclusion.
No it’s a “theory” that has not been demonstrated to hold up and isn’t granted a lot of respect in political science circles.
While certain aspects can be shared, such as a greater appreciation for authoritarianism, the actual beliefs are so incredibly different and the people drawn to them are so different that the “theory” doesn’t work.
You are unfamiliar with the altright if you think hexbear is at all right. They are leftists and many are revolutionary leftists but no one there for long is altright.
For fucks sake this al, comes about from the ChapoTrapHouse subreddit getting banned.
Both can be offensively violent but the types of people drawn to either vary widely. For example I cannot say I know any socialists who were individually racist (as opposed to racist by virtue of being American as structural racism runs deep).
Wouldn’t owning cows as an individual be a form of theft in the USSR of the 1920s? Wouldn’t they be the collective’s cows and if you made them “yours” you were stealing?
At what point does it discuss horseshoe theory? They seem to talk about the holocaust vs the soviets which isn’t really what horsehoe theory purports to be about (and again the horseshoe theory is complete bullshit)
Not entirely as if you sold the company then you would receive a share of the profits as you are part owner so it does in a sense represent the value of a company but not really and only if sold. In your example they cannot sell so those specific shares wouod yave no value making getting investment difficult.
Seizing all the stock held by outside people would tank the value of the stock and company if it was legal which it isn’t.
Stocks have value that increases or decreases because outside people can trade them. If you own a share of a business that you cannot sell then it will not provide you any value unless the company sells otherwise you just have a piece of paper stating you own a piece of that company which has no worth. .
Even if you take the whole executive suite it isn’t going to amount to much. The real areas to focus on are the perks, the projects that get handled by “consultants” that were ex-employees who did that same job for less before etc. If they really want to pay these workers it’s going to make more sense togo after other things in addition to high pay.
Except it’s worse than that. GM paid their CEO 22 million in 2021 which broken across the employees would equate to an extra $173-4 USD that year or $2-3 per week.
If we took the 29 million the GM CEO was paid in 2021 and broke that up equally across the roughly 167,000 employees they each get an extra $173-174 dollars for the year.
They are getting paid too much but their salary isn’t enough to correct the shortages in worker pay. There are other places that need to be looked at in addition to CEO pay to find the money workers deserve.
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The fact that the government does not permit any other party to run other than the communist party. There is no free and fair elections inCuba as a result of this.
Ok and what if down the road the government gives way to severe corruption and no longer represents the people and they want a change?
The fact is Cuba is authoritarian because the mechanisms to remove the government do jot exist and the people have no say in the direction unless they agree with the state.
The fact that you cannot oppose the government publicly or suggest replacing it makes it authoritarian. This isn’t a debate about the definition of an authoritarian state. You either know it or you don’t and right now it’s very clear you don’t.
The rights to Food and shelter are not relevant to the question of government structure. If Iran fed, sheltered and clothed their population as Islam requires they would not be less authoritarian given they are a theocratic state.
No it’s a well defined concept in political philosophy. If you can’t speak against the government, you cannot suggest changing the type of government, or if power is trapped within hereditary lines then the state is authoritarian.
Whether the authoritarian system is worse than a non-authoritarian state is a different matter. Cuba has benefitted significantly from their authoritarian government as has China and Vietnam. Authoritarian does not always mean the government is bad it just means the population is less free which they might not care about.
Fred Hampton advocated violent revolution which has nothing to do with why he was murdered. Hampton was murdered because he effectively organized non-white neighborhoods and the LEO couldn’t handle that.
You might want to read the US Constitution as it literally has mechanisms for the removal of the entire government. Im bringing that up as a point because you are completely incorrect that “every” country has this.
We are talking about Cuba when we talk about how only people who agree with the state can run as in the USA there are socialists running who want to completely change our political structure. You can’t do that in Cuba and that is why is is authoritarian and the USA is currently not .
In 2008 while railing against political correctness Sarah Palin, the dipshit republican vice presidential candidate, popularized the idea that it wasn’t ok to use retarded as an insult.
There was widespread racism directed at Italian Americans that ran for decades. My grandmother’s mortgage from 1955 had language referring to Italian America quotas that needed to be referenced so they were not exceeded. That meant the town had to sign off on Italian Americans buying the home.
German is the most common ancestry in America which is likely why we did nothing about German Americans.
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