PugJesus

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PugJesus,

lemmy.world/post/16146433

Here’s actual context for anyone who wants it.

The US president is expected to sign the order as early as Tuesday to seal the border with Mexico to migrants when numbers of asylum claimants rise above a daily threshold of 2,500.

But sure, both sides the same, if this time we let fascism win it will totally make us into a left-wing paradise, etc etc etc.

PugJesus,

All people are doing is pointing out shitty things that Biden does. Perhaps she should stop doing those? I don’t know, it just sounds incredibly authoritarian. The way a lot of these neoliberals like yourself are acting like criticism is not allowed.

It’s building up a massive amount of spite to moderates.

Yes, that is the position of the American moderate. Clearly, the American moderate is upset at stricter immigration policy.

Have you talked to an American moderate in your life?

PugJesus,

Edit : Downvote all you want, but all it’s doing is building up spite and not just me, but basically every other progressive.

Funny. Every progressive I know is hell-bent on a Biden victory because, even though we’re all well to the left of the left-wing of the Democratic Party, much less some centrist like Biden, we aren’t ghouls who desire our fellow Americans to suffer under a fascist regime, especially not out of ‘spite’ over being downvoted on an internet forum.

I always thought my experience with other progressives was the norm, but maybe there’s some evidence you’ve got that suggests otherwise.

PugJesus,

Lee ordered the charge. Longstreet cautioned against it, Pickett just carried it out.

PugJesus,

They gambled fascism because their policy is not far enough away from the Republican ideology for it to have been a serious existential concern.

Oh? Is that why?

And yes, the way you said " Actually, I have read it" and immediately was like “ohhh but have you read this??” was extremely pompous and gross lol

Well, I’m sorry for being a pompous intellectual who ‘reads things’ and ‘responds when told to read something he has already read and in fact contradicts the point being made’.

PugJesus,

Yeah, Trump is pretty clearly fascist on all points.

PugJesus, (edited )

As someone also living in the US, I’m gonna have to disagree with that assessment.

Point is, your definition of fascism as applied to Democrats and Republicans labels all states fascist, which makes fascist a useless and redundant term for ‘statist’.

PugJesus,

I apologize for being literate and being able to respond when someone asks me “Have you read X?”

PugJesus,

If you wanted to say that’s what you meant, you could have said that lmao that’s my point you dumbass

That’s literally what I did say. An example of fascism emerging from a non-liberal origin.

PugJesus,

If you said, “I disagree bc this historical event is an example of fascism coming from a non-liberal origin”… then yes, that would have been literally what you said. But that’s not what you said.

liberal democracies are breeding grounds for fascism. every fascist regime has emerged from them.

How would you characterize the right-wing of the Kuomintang under Chiang Kai-shek?

PugJesus, (edited )

It’s not that you read, it’s that you name drop books and knowledge instead of incorporating them into a discussion.

Oh, okay. Who brought up reading Mussolini in this discussion, again, and used it as an assertion of fascism’s definition, without ever defining fascism with the actual writings of Mussolini? Was it me or the other commenter? Sorry, I’m very scatter-brained, you’ll have to remind me.

PugJesus,

you responsed with a sarcastic “Cool” and said oh by the way have you actually even read Mussolini?

Yes, I asked if they’d read, specifically, the Doctrine of Fascism since the Doctrine of Fascism quite literally contradicts their points.

And I know you know what you’re doing lol.

Yeah, arguing?

PugJesus,

Okay.

PugJesus,

Fuck, you’re right. I’ll edit that

PugJesus,

Fuck that guy, he’s dead to me

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