z0rg0n

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z0rg0n,

So we could get an early bird bonus and they could estimate interest.

z0rg0n,

If anyone wants to help me out you can use my referral link: airdrop.tari.com?referralCode=2EU6QNZ0Pi

z0rg0n,

I think there will be a lot of push back from hardcore Monero users who want absolute privacy and offering anything else is unacceptable.

I’d counter to say that maybe that works for you but it clearly doesn’t work for everyone. We’re getting maximum privacy at the cost of user experience and it’s causing adoption to faulter.

We all agree that we’re not seeing the wave of adoption we’d expect with such an important project. One reason for that may be the sacrifices we’ve made in the name of maximizing privacy.

Tari is a way to have both, maximum privacy and some compromises that will increase onboarding. All while increasing the XMR hash rate through merge-mining.

z0rg0n,

It’s absolutely a sales pitch but I’m sorry to hear I’m doing it badly.

I don’t think I need to convince anyone here to accept it since the work that the architects put into Tari will speak for itself.

I love the idea of distributed computing and the way I see it, Monero has always had the most potential to grow and be adopted because of it’s privacy features. But we haven’t seen that in what people are building. ETH and SOL are blowing XMR out of the water when it comes to available dapps. I think Tari could be like the ETH arm of the Monero distributed computer.

z0rg0n,

To be fair I don’t think anyone here is the target audience. The target is the 99% of the world who aren’t onboarded to crypto. Fluffy said it best when he described Tari as a “Trojan Horse”. youtu.be/FSe8IXJO6nIyoutu.be/zmeSSnppixY

We need something to get people into the space and we need it to be private by default.

z0rg0n,

As a few examples

Removing mordinals was a maximally private idea. Adding templating to Tari was done as the flip side of this, to maximize how many people can express themselves on chain.

In monero vanity addresses are not possible on chain to maximize privacy. In Tari every address is made of emojis that are encouraged to be shortened with yats.

Smart contracting is huge, it gets people excited. Tari can be like the smart contracting platform monero needs to get people using privacy preserving technology.

z0rg0n,

Isn’t the jurisdiction of the ban is only in the US?

Monero delisting for Kraken Germany (support.kraken.com)

Kraken powered by DLT Finance Asset Support The exact service start and other dates may vary. Clients will be contacted with confirmation of the dates. Kraken powered by DLT Finance will support a slightly reduced set of assets and Opt-in Rewards services. Clients holding the following unsupported assets are advised to either...

Full-Chain Membership Proofs Development Post By Luke "Kayaba" Parker on April 27, 2024 (www.getmonero.org)

Full-Chain Membership Proofs, as a concept, is a replacement for rings within the Monero protocol. While rings have offered sender privacy to Monero since it launched, they’re vulnerable to attacks such as the EAE attack, have difficulties upon chain reorganzations, and in general enable statistical analysis (mitigated by...

z0rg0n,

He did a great job summarizing the ideas and reasoning behind FCMPs. The Monero community is really lucky to have someone with his talent contributing.

z0rg0n,
z0rg0n,

Donate if you can! Full-chain membership proofs sound like they’re worth it!

Here’s a little more of an in-depth look from Luke Parker: www.youtube.com/live/rwA5L1LwSUs?feature=shared

z0rg0n,

I know there’s a resistance to centralized exchanges but I can’t see this as anything but bad for people’s access to Monero.

Kraken has always been reputable and delisting from here means millions of people are losing an easy to use on-ramp for Monero.

It reminds me of sanctions in Russia. Sanctions don’t totally restrict access to western goods like Levi’s. They force customers to buy through a middle man who takes a cut. This increases the cost and effort to buy which results in less people buying and using whatever good.

z0rg0n,

Q-anon is probably the biggest one.

Check out the HBO documentary ‘Q: Into the Storm’.

z0rg0n,

Hey! It’s not that simple! There’s feces too.

z0rg0n,

My gym explicitly allowes filming. It’s something I knew and accepted when I signed up.

Either the gym shown allowes filming and didn’t adequately communicate that to the guy or they don’t allow it and didn’t adequately communicate that to the woman.

Or one of them are ignoring the rules I guess.

z0rg0n,

The code trevador used was adapted from Monero’s PoW code.

Monero also gets a lot of use on Tor sites. Some people who like private money also are drawn to other private spaces online. So helping the Tor network beat the DDoS attacks it’s been under is good for Monero.

Both are somewhat tangentially related to Monero.

z0rg0n,

Lack of privacy is a huge reason. If you’re OK with Google scanning all of your photos to sell you adds and build their AI then it’s a fine option.

z0rg0n,

Here’s a relevant quote from their privacy policy:

We provide personal information to our affiliates and other trusted businesses or persons to process it for us, based on our instructions and in compliance with our Privacy Policy and any other appropriate confidentiality and security measures. For example, we use service providers to help operate our data centers, deliver our products and services, improve our internal business processes, and offer additional support to customers and users.

If you’re OK with Google using your personal information to sell you adds or with then selling your personal information directly, then it’s a fine option.

Again, i’s a privacy issue. Some people are OK with giving up privacy for convenience, and that’s fine.

z0rg0n,

You just made me realize how much I’d love to live in a country where there was no such thing as a “normal shooting”.

Gun culture in America is absolutely fucked.

What do you think about OXEM?

OXEN is a fork of Monero that uses proof of stake instead of proof of work and supports instant transactions. Lokinet (onion router, like tor) and Session (messanger) are build on top of it. I just discovered it a week ago and I’m suprised that I hadn’t heard of it before. In my opinion It’s a better Monero (except that...

z0rg0n,

We can’t spend inputs till they reach 10 blocks though right?

z0rg0n,

He never says they’re necessary but does explain how they’re useful. Is the royal family not actually bringing in more money for the government than they’re using?

z0rg0n,

Monero has mechanisms for validating supply:

m.youtube.com/watch?v=vW9H6VIONWM&t=174s

If you’re going to repeat this argument ad nauseam then at least don’t do it in a misleading absolutist way.

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