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The "debate" was over long ago. The answer has been an obvious yes for years and years. It's only because fascists know that liberals are vulnerable to this rhetoric that they continue to pose the issue as an open question.

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Bloody hell, with what crime? Convincing your comrades to not work?

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There are vegetable versions of every "incorporated" meal where all the ingredients are mixed together, like pasta, soup, curry, stir-fry, etc.. And for every other meal, the meat portion is easily replaceable with another portion of vegetables.

Going vegetarian really is as simple as "don't put meat in it". Just take it off the ingredient list. Meals do not naturally contain meat, so if you don't add any, they won't have any. It's not something to be "substituted" unless you are wanting to mimic a specific meal.

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Whatever. Good luck to you.

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This is why people who eat mainly meat don’t even consider vegan food.

No, the reason is that you have invented a false history to justify not even trying.

There are entire cultures where eating meat is either a rare occasion, or simply never done, even though they have access to meat and livestock.

People eat what they had available. Sometimes that was meat, many times it wasn't.

Just one recipe. Is that too much?

A simple vegetable soup is easy and nutritious. Most curries are vegetable-first and only become non-vegetarian by choosing to add meat instead of something like lentils or checkpeas. Vegetable lasagna is decadent and satisfying.

There are near-infinite recipes available of food that is plant-based and tastes good. But you have this list of exclusionary factors where you have decided that various meals "should" have meat, and therefore a meat-free version has made a replacement, and is therefore inferior and you aren't going to try it.

You don't need a recipe, you need a change of mindset.

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None the less, in my first post I spesifically pointed out that I am not looking for “just remove meat”, which was the point. And your answer was “well these foods are good if you just remove the meat”.

I know what you asked. But no, that is not what I said.

I did not say "remove the meat". I pointed out that all these meals are vegetarian until you add the meat. None of them are intrinsically meat-based.

This is EXACTLY what I mean when I say you need a change of mindset, if you actually want to try.

However, I find that the modern vegetarian cousine has stagnated because of the need to sell “meatlesd meat”.

I have no idea where you are looking, but nothing could be further from the truth. Vegetarian options have flourished because more people are moving to a meat-free diet.

I have tried a lot of “vegan options”, and as said, I am not looking to turn vegan. That is why I can decide NOT to compromise when it comes to meat.

And of course, you think pretty much every vegan dish is a compromise, and so you will continue to not try. Convenient!

And if you want to convert people to veganism, you need to change of mindset.

Bite me :)

A recipe is a start.

I've suggested three already, I'm sorry you have trouble reading.

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And I’m saying that I don’t like the meat replacers.

Nowhere in any of my comments have I suggested a "meat replacer" even a single time.

This is why I'm snarky with you. Because you keep pretending I've said things that I haven't.

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just to spite you in particular

I'm not even vegan. I could not give less of a toss what you eat. But thank you for confirming just how small a person you really are.

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Ah no, that sucks. I've been using a lot of those apps.

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They are going on adventures together! Maybe one day they'll both read the same book at the same time, and go on the same adventure!

I love you all, and this goes out to both sides, Democrats were just as anti gay marriage back in the day. Can we all come together and say, there's nothing wrong with being gay? (www.youtube.com)

Regardless of our politics, there are some things that are worth fighting for, and adults making the free choice to be their authentic selves is one. This goes out to my gay conservative and liberal brothers and sisters. Plus, its a very funny video :D

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Not many. It’s a small minority.

Yet you are happy to vote for them.

Should all democrats be viewed by the democrats trying...

I mean firstly y'all do that, yeah.

But secondly, no, "wealth taxes" and "ban of firearms" are entirely incomparable to banning a groups of people from accessing the healthcare they need or taking part in public life. The latter is a dealbreaker for good people. The fact that it isn't a dealbreaker for you is precisely why we view you as evil.

Also I am highly skeptical of your last claim. That sounds like a flat out lie from a politician who is pushing the absolute worst of the policies we are talking about. Conservatives have been slithering into my mentions to talk about "Gender Queer" being in schools, when the book is clearly marked for 18+ audiences and isn't given to kids.

If you think they’re radically different then you haven’t read the studies. The studies say they’re more akin to their biological sex than the gender they picked. Even after years on hrt they maintain their bone mass, most their strength and vo2 capacity. That’s in non-athlete trans people.

No I'm just not cherry-picking the studies that agree with me. There are studies both for and against the inclusion of transgender women in women's divisions. It depends on the sport, the length of time of transition, the time which transition began, and so on.

But you didn't acknowledge any of that. You just referred to trans women as "biological men", which shows a complete and utter lack of understanding of the issue and a dismissal of all actual discussion.

I'm sorry that you lack integrity.

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You've said you're conservative, don't act like it's a ridiculous leap to think you vote conservative.

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You stated you knew who I voted for. So tell me who I voted for. Otherwise don’t by an idiot claiming to know the minds of others. Name one person I’ve voted for that was trying to ban trans care for adults.

If you voted for Republicans in the US, or Tories in the UK, then you have voted in support of banning trans healthcare.

Integrity is important.

Given the bad-faith nature of your responses, and the responses you've previously given to me in other threads, you wouldn't know integrity if it slapped you in the face.

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Stop acting in bad faith. Name who I voted for that was thing to ban trans healthcare for adults.

If you voted conservative, that is what you were voting for.

I am sorry you are having trouble understanding that.

I have not acted in bad faith. Nothing I said could be viewed that way.

I would laugh in your face if you said that to me in person.

You’ve made a claim, have not facts to defend it and keep doubling down on it.

No. I did not claim to know the specific person you voted for, because the specific person you voted for is irrelevant. If you voted conservative, those are the policies you voted in support of.

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Yes the specific person is important since you are making a specific claim.

I'm sorry you are incapable of reading. I made no such claim.

So now I have learned you’re both a liar and delusional.

Eat glass.

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You said I voted for people that are trying to ban trans healthcare. That’s a specific accusation.

Yes. As in the Republican party. I'm sorry you cannot understand that.

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I can’t understand it because it’s a lie. Name which republican I voted for that wants to remove trans medical rights from adults.

Me: "The official position of the Republican party is opposed to transgender people, if you vote for Republicans, those are the policies that you are supporting."

You: "nAmE tHe PoLiTiCiAnS i VoTeD fOr Or YoU'rE lYiNg!"

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The official position isn’t opposed.

Oh come on.

Literally page 31 is talking about repealing gay marriage. The anti-LGBTQ party is anti-LGBTQ.

Which party is the one pushing the care bans, the book bans, the sports bans, the criminalization of drag? Which party has guests at their speaking events talking about "eliminating" trans people?

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So you have nothing but changing the subject and accusing me of heinous things?

You're right, this conversation is over. You are evil, and if there was any justice in the world, you would be eradicated from it.

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That's very convenient. Meanwhile the people who want to ban all trans healthcare are literally Republican politicians and talking heads.

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Alright, I'll accept that.

I wish you would hold your own representatives to the same standards.

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My comment was made in complete sincerity. It was not bad-faith.
Conservative politicians, commentators, and influencers have explicitly called for my eradication as a transgender person.

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You should try reading.
But this is the sort of low-effort bad-faith response I've come to expect from conservatives.

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