wowwoweowza,

What is a quest 1?

UnaSolaEstrellaLibre,

Is there a homebrew scene with these Quest devices?

Blackmist,

It’s just Android iirc.

Dunno how much enthusiasm there is for a homebrew scene because the 1st gen was weak as shit, and the main selling point is you can use them as a PC headset, which is going to get you a better experience than any game run natively on it.

rickrolled767,

I can’t speak for the quest directly but I’ve used programs like sidequest to load homebrew games onto my quest 2. It’s also really easy to do so I don’t think they’re quote going to be e waste yet

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

God I hope so. This is ludicrous. People are still developing NES games ffs! A friend of mine did.

antidote101, (edited )

Yeah, via SideQuest (which is a sideloader program), and most game engine support quest development. However it wouldn’t surprise me if Meta were able to prevent that.

They really are horrible to devs, they offer no real support, especially for Unreal devs, and their dev forums are practically dead because of this.

They don’t understand how to encourage devs. I was thinking of getting a Meta Quest 3, but seeing this post has me reconsidering the idea.

UsernameIsTooLon,

Not quite homebrew, but SideQuest is the least hassle free solution for many alternatives and games.

KuroiKaze,

Meanwhile my OG oculus rift is still working fine

AnUnusualRelic,
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

I’m about to revive my CV1 as I reinstall my gaming rig in a couple months. I hope it won’t be bricked by those Facebook idiots.

zzx,

Same. CV1. Fuck Facebook

Blackmist,

I mean, this will carry on working as a PC headset too. Doesn’t say they’re taking that away.

ColeSloth,

What a lame early April fools joke.

randon31415,

Does quest 1 have access to virtual desktop? If so, can you just keep playing off of your computer hardware? Or are those 10kB patches virtual desktop has to download RIGHT NOW five minutes after you start using it really important to the operation of the streamer app?

intensely_human,

Device was released May 21, 2019. So about five years of use, assuming someone bought one on release day.

Meh.

flumph,
@flumph@programming.dev avatar

And? Why take active steps to stop it from working instead of just stopping technical support? Oh yeah, to get more money.

intensely_human,

Why assume that’s what I was saying?

flumph,
@flumph@programming.dev avatar

Your entire comment reads as a refute of OPs criticism and an excuse for Meta’s actions. If you were agreeing with OPs criticism, you would typically use phrases like “only five years”.

intensely_human,

Or I would express that I’m on the fence between thinking the thing lasted long enough to be worth it, and thinking it wasn’t.

Ultragigagigantic,
@Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world avatar

What would happen if you did a charge back if you bought one with a credit card?

echo64,

Your bank would probably just deny it, it’s been four years since they sold them.

NocturnalMorning,

“Because climate change doesn’t exist, so fuck you and fuck your grand children’s children. Our bottom line is what matters” - every company ever

PlantDadManGuy,

“Our headquarters are located in swamp-ass-backward-Florida”

summerof69,

Why? I don’t see what blocks people from using it with a PC.

gamermanh,
@gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar
jkrtn,

Does this make it possible to use the headset without ever having a Meta account? That’s the only way I’d be willing to interact with a Quest device.

gamermanh,
@gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Lol, of course not, you have to make an account to enable developer options to enable side loading

The stealing of our data is how they make the headset so cheap

GreatAlbatross,
@GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk avatar

Hopefully, someone is sitting on a root workaround, and will reveal it once the updates stop.

I’d buy a second hand one, if there was a way to use it without any meta involvement.

gamermanh,
@gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I’m expecting it, tbh

I have a quest 2 and it’s actually a FANTASTIC headset, but I want to rip the meta shit out

Not even because they’re a gross company (tho they are), I use a burner account with burner info and play in a gray room through a router specifically for my VR (almost completely lag free wireless this way, it works) but because I HATE that they made you have arms in an update and didn’t let us turn it off. They’re horrid

intensely_human,

So they made you join the army?

gamermanh,
@gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I wish they gave me a firearm

But no, it’s a garbage implementation of giving you a digital avatar that displays arms in a first person view by guessing where they must be based off of controller position.

It clearly doesn’t use the cams on the device cuz they’re bad

p03locke,
@p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I have a quest 2 and it’s actually a FANTASTIC headset

Yes, because of John Fifth-Dimensional-Being-Pretending-to-be-a-Human Carmack.

gamermanh,
@gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

"oh, do you need me to just invent the fundamental technology for a massive sector of computing again? Sure, no problem, have it to ya by Friday"

  • John Carmack on multiple occasions
LiveLM,

they made you have arms in an update and didn’t let us turn it off

What? I’m guessing they made it so your arms show up in-game somehow???

gamermanh,
@gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Not in games, but in the main hub menu of the device

It tries to guess where your arms are based on controller position

It’s c r a p

mindbleach,

Oh my god, it even has a brilliant name.

gmtom,

But that doesn’t give security updates.

gamermanh,
@gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

That’s what happens with old devices and dealing with it is part of the cost of using them

gmtom,

Bro the quest is only 5 years old. And stop excusing shitty practices just because they are the normal.

gamermanh,
@gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Lol, the famously great reading comprehension of the Internet.

  1. I didn’t excuse shit
  2. 5 years of updates is a pretty normal timeline for mobile devices
gmtom,
  1. I’m not excusing shit
  1. Here is an excuse.
gamermanh,
@gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Pointing out that you’re whining about something thats irrelevant isn’t excsing shit, but reading comprehension is hard for you I guess.

The initial point was that the dick move was blocking developers who wanted to and were able from sending content hosted on metas server to Quest 1 headsets. I responded with a sarcastic comment giving people a way to get around that dickheaded move by sideloading

It is not related in any way to not giving security updates anymore. That’s normal EOL shit for devices and software. If you don’t like that or don’t like how long meta offered support that’s a you issue and I did not comment on it other than pointing out that 5 years is normal update life on devices like that after you already changed the subject

gmtom,

something thats irrelevant

its perfectly relevant to the conversation.

Get out of this reddit mentality you have where every interaction you have with another person on the internet is an argument you’re trying to “win”.

hperrin,

I’m really hoping that Valve releases a new headset by the time my Quest inevitably becomes unusable.

DdCno1,

I would expect Valve's next headset to be expensive, complex and requiring extensive configuration by the user, just like their previous efforts. Pretty much the polar opposite of the Quest.

Maalus,

Obviously you’ve never had a headset from Valve. It is literally plug in 3 things, setup space so you don’t hit your monitor (optional) and play it.

Eggyhead,

You lost me at plug.

MDKAOD,

You can’t be helped.

PerogiBoi,
@PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca avatar

If you struggle with plugging a cable into a computer then VR probably isn’t for you.

Eggyhead,

Even the ones that require no plugging and no computer?

ech,

“Thanks for your support in growing this community without any compensation from us that we will throw in the trash the moment it becomes less than profitable. You can continue your unrewarded work for our new and ‘improved’ product that will face the same fate in just a few short years!”

FeelThePower,
@FeelThePower@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

same thing happened to my Samsung mixed reality headset. I’ve just said fuck vr entirely if companies are going to do this. reminds me of how Apple used to be where people would patch new fully working iOS version features onto old phones to bypass artificial obsolescence.

DdCno1,

I thought these are still working?

FeelThePower,
@FeelThePower@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

if you don’t update past 21H2, they will work on steamVR for around 3 more years yeh. but the end is still just delayed e-waste.

Anticorp,

So, they’re basically forcing it into the junk pile, even if developers want to support it. What a terrible company.

Dashmezzo,

Well it is meta. I am surprised they didn’t make them all just catch fire and burn down the owners houses.

Anticorp,

There’s no money in that for them. Now if they owned a real estate company…

NOPper,

Upon being handed a busted Quest 2 that indeed caught fire, I’ve found a lot of folks online that have had that very issue lol.

Unrelated, I fixed it and noe need VR game suggestions as this realm is the shit.

fidodo,

We thank you for being our beta testers, now fuck right off

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

It’s not even a beta tester thing. They just bought it from Oculus, made a few minor changes (most notably requiring you to have a Facebook account to use it) and that was it. This is a “force consumers to upgrade” thing. And it should be illegal.

fidodo,

I thought the on device camera based positioning was developed after Facebook bought them and hired John Carmack

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