@yogthos The hp printer I bought disabled itself after my firewall blocked its spyware/telemetry.
(The box said I needed an 'internet connection' not a 'raw, unfiltered connection'. And any computer worked/works on said connection.)
I took it back to the retailer. They unhappily refunded my money.
@markusl@yogthos M234sdwe, but I think it is a shared bug in all new hp printers. Otherwise excellent, but it has this incredibly stinky dead cat tied to its leg....
@markusl@Heterokromia@yogthos don't buy any hp. I made this experience already, it didn't like a thin paper and just irreparably locked up. It's a bad company
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I bought a JBL Bluetooth speaker and it wanted to access my contact list and call history in order to just play music. Nope, took it back.
I'm on an HP ink sub, as I have a printer a friend gave me - to replace an old printer that had jammed (after 10 years). The old printer was probably a Brother, which worked well despite my lack of maintenance.
IThe newer HP is a great printer apart from its need to constantly monitor my usage. I'll keep it until I get a another affordable colour printer.
@Heterokromia@yogthos there was a time i respected HP. i have two HP printers both of which are 1) very nice and 2) predate ink and toner madness. HP has cured my respect for the company. i shall not buy another of their products.
@nfgusedautoparts@Heterokromia@yogthos same, I still have an old HP inkjet I bought at Circuit City in 2004 that's still going strong, but I won't touch any new stuff
@Heterokromia@yogthos And it Came To Pass that one of the Master's Chattering Servants found it self alone, and unable to commune with it's Master.
This made it sullen, and it spat in it's Caretakers face.
Many would have bent the knee, but this Caretaker was wiser than most.
It banished the Chattering Servant from its domain, and demanded restitution from the Chaos Merchants.
@Heterokromia@yogthos@cstross Why do I get the feeling that in an age where your toothbrush spies on you, where even the mightiest can be caught with their genitals in unseemly positions in unseemly places, where media gotcha engines have finally lapsed into a coma after getting everybody who can possibly be gotten, we’ll see a mighty uprising of tolerance? After all, didn’t someone righteously god-fearing once tell us that we’re all sinners in the hands of a bespoke surveillance algorithm?
@cstross@Heterokromia@yogthos Well of course I would agree with you if it were simply a matter of “homo homini lupus.” The thing is that in the historical contexts you rightly appeal to, it has always been possible for the inquiring class to excuse themselves from inquiry. Until they couldn’t, of course—a Man for All Seasons, Politburo purges under Stalin, etc. Once we all have access to AWS and ChatGPT X, everyone will live in fear until the mode of the music changes. Which it just might do.
@Canecittadino@cstross@Heterokromia@yogthos you see, there's this thing called power, which is fairly unevenly distributed, so there's always people that are beyond any inquiry and very interested in that those others aren't. this latter thing is called control. and the times we live in tell that both concepts are very much fine and well and much the same as they were in the historic times. so, yes, you should care about your privacy. 🤷
@jkmcnk@cstross@Heterokromia@yogthos All true for now, but the situation is also more fluid than it used to be, largely because of the rapid evolution of communications technologies. Compare the longevity of the Roman Catholic Church or the British Monarchy with that of the Thousand Year Reich, or the Soviet Politburo. How long do you suppose Ron DeSantis is going to last? /1
@jkmcnk@cstross@Heterokromia@yogthos The uneven distribution of power isn’t the issue. As long as human beings are what they are, that may well be inescapable. What’s different now is the turbulence introduced into control mechanisms by the inherent unpredictabily of their impact. /2
@jkmcnk@cstross@Heterokromia@yogthos “Quis costodiet ipsos custodes” is the real issue here. When the watchers operate on a scale no human agency can effectively oversee, anomalies may very well become more frequent. China’s social credit evaluation regime will be the best test case for these suppositions, I think. We shall see…. /2 END
@Heterokromia@yogthos So far the Brother Lasers / MFP etc we've bought over the years have been fine without Internet and with 3rd party toner. Also decent Linux drivers for print & scan from Brother. HP were good 25 years ago for laser. Never good for inkjet. Decent HP gear now has Agilent badges.
@carturo222 It has absolutely no need for it that I can see, however, I am not in the printer making business.
Apparently, someone at HP thinks that knowing when I print a page, and what kind of cartridge I use to do it, is more important than having to refund my money and handle a returned printer.
That's ... an odd decision, I reckon.
I'd love to see if they've changed the wording on the outside of the box to something-like:
"This printer must have continuous, unimpeded internet access to send information to HP, without that access, the printer will not work."
... or something similar.
I guess that'd get them out of the hole that they've dug themselves with Australian consumer law.
@Heterokromia@yogthos Used to be an HP fanboi. No longer. For small office and home use I've been happy with Brother. Home has a cheap B&W laser that just works, Linux and Mac just sees it and it's not picky about cartridges/drums, etc.. but the real OEM ones aren't expensive. - My wife needs nice color prints every now and then, cheaper to just pay the local print shop.
@uninventive@Heterokromia@yogthos FWIW Brother has started chipping their toner cartridges over the past few years. I just set up an HL-L6200DW and immediately made sure it had no internet access to make sure it stays on its current firmware and doesn’t upgrade to one that might lock-out 3rd party toner.
Brother's method of a IR light shining through a semiopaque window on the side and not going through the other side had some downsides. (Want the most out of your cartridge? Stick tissue over the window, run it dry.)
Most manufacturers just stick with a count chip that disables the cartridge after X000 uses.
And to be honest, if all the businesses start going that anticonsumer across the industry, happy to sell the printer and just go paperless. Probably best for all involved. Force offices to change their processes faster, better for the planet over time, and they can stick it to the holdouts who won't change.
@uninventive@Heterokromia@yogthos Was just looking through your timeline and saw you’ve worked as a technician and serviced these things — so if I’m wrong about the sensor my apologies. I’d expect IR windows to not work for toner but maybe at best there’d be a density sensor to detect when it’s truly out. In any case I like simple brother laser printers and was sad to learn they were starting to do the same lockout stuff everyone else does.
@uninventive@Heterokromia@yogthos And a printer lock-in accelerationist! I'll be ready for scrolls and fountain pens when-the-toner-cartridge-hits-the-fan.
@uninventive@Heterokromia@yogthos I’m referring to laser toner cartridges, there’s no IR window on those that I know of. The printer just keeps track in memory of the remaining page count and you used to be able to reset the count if the cartridge still has some toner and the printer declares it empty. Brother did not try to lock out third party toner cartridges until fairly recently.
@uninventive@Heterokromia@yogthos This does remind me I need to go refill some inkjet carts and reset chips for my Canon. Messy process. Glad some manufacturers are finally making inkjets with refillable tanks.
@GustavinoBevilacqua@yogthos I was wildly curious about it too. I imagine a public key cryptographic mechanism, but I do not know how it actually works. My keenness to get my money back completely overrode my curiosity about the network protocol. (Yes, that's very unusual for me.)
@oloturia@Heterokromia@yogthos it says in the response: just buy a non-instant ink cartridge. The subscription ones aren’t really yours once you stop paying.
After they removed the cartridges the printer didn't restart, and they couldn't update the billing information nor use the scanner and neither contact the customer service.
It's the whole printer that isn't really yours, not just the ink. I think this is good for someone, as it solves all the problems that the same printer makers artificially created in the past years.
@Heterokromia@yogthos Do you have a picture of the error message it gave you? I'd love to see it.
Bricking when presented "unauthorized" ink or toner is well-known for HP of the last X years, but I hadn't heard of them doing it when you block their network access.
For many years I've been telling people who ask "Buy an HP laser printer. Just don't buy a new one." There's a huge market for used office printers, and you can get one old enough that it will use 3rd-party toner.
@cazabon@Heterokromia@yogthos So the HP inkjet was a huge disappointment to me. It no long works after 13mo. because it can't communicate with the mother ship. I will NEVER return to HP and it's overarching control of my equipment. I had followed all the rules, used their ink subscription, which was also a HUGE negative experience. Purchased a different brand that does NOT communicate with the manufacturer. I'm buying my ink supply as I need it. So much happier.
That's terrible. When I added a Lexmark printer to my network a year ago, I firewalled it off from the outside world on general principle - it never even occurred to me that a printer manufacturer would make communicating with the mothership a requirement for normal operation. I guess I'm lucky #Lexmark hasn't gone that route.
I'm glad you found something else that works for you. Did you get an #Epson#Ecotank printer? Very cost-effective.
@cazabon@Heterokromia@yogthos I got a Canon laser. Costs much more, weighs a ton, but it's really a fast printer with excellent print quality and NO requirement for it to check in to it's manufacturer for permission to print. I'm pretty much over inkjets, period.
It's the old saying, you get what you pay for. Only downside is that you need to wear a back brace to move it.
@joytoworld93@cazabon@yogthos I bought a Pantum laser MFP, it is just fone. I got it from InkStation specifically because they specialise in recycling and refilling cartridges.
All these people are terminally attached to the people they are connected to on the platform. Moving over is easy. Convincing your friends to move along with you is hard. As a creator, convincing your whole follower base to move along with you is nearly impossible.
The vast majority of these users aren’t paying for subscription, and many advertisers have dropped it. Meanwhile it needs to pay additional debt and interest from the acquisition itself.
It is on its death bed already. All it takes is for the owner to realize it’s not worth taking losses over it anymore.
Not to mention, so I can stop seeing pictures of him, pressing his fingertips together in front of his face like he’s some fucking pensive genius. I’m goddamn tired of it
No offense but this is so goddamn stupid. We don’t live in a bubble and unfortunately their actions may have an impact as they ripple through the business and political world.
Intentionally censoring news because “lol get wrecked Jeff Bezos” is hurting no one but yourself.
Chinese company storing user data in China is non-news unless I'm missing something.
I suppose them "previously suggesting it was all on servers within America" and now admitting that that was false begs the question what else have they lied about?
The EU does have a law about it in GDPR (General Data Protection Regulations). The US doesn't currently have any laws against it, but the US is going after China specifically.
The US has made executive orders against software on edge routers, but nothing enforceable about end user data. There was an agreement Oracle would host TikTok's American data to appease the US
Since then, Yvette’s pulled the same “trick” four times, although she insists she doesn’t see herself as a shoplifter and is “a goody goody” by nature: “I earn a reasonable amount in my senior position, drive an SUV, and live in a desirable postcode. Before my divorce, our girls attended private school.”
This kind of ÜberKarens are the reason we can’t get nice stuff. Actions of people like her will be used to crack down on people that literally can’t afford basic needs and to reduce the privacy of everyone else, while making the service shittier at the same time.
And she has the gall of calling her self a “goody goody”. Bullshit, no one so self entitled is a nice person.
Yeah, bitch decided to commit crime 5 times, boast about her career and wealth while pretend that is the feature of good people, then “teach” others how to commit the same crime. Bitch have no shame nor dignity. Makes me wonder what sort of white collar crime she also committed.
Honestly I don’t even really care that much that she’s shoplifting, I find it hard to sympathize with a multi-billion-dollar company losing a small fraction of their profits.
But then she insists that she’s not actually a shoplifter, and brags about her income and how she’s a great person as if she’s trying to separate herself from “the bad shoplifters”, which gives me the same vibes as the article “The Only Moral Abortion is My Abortion”.
I know right? If anything she's worse; she's the one not doing it out of necessity. She actually has a realistic choice.
Not that I have much sympathy for the supermarkets but fuck me, don't pretend you're better than the next person doing it, especially when they might only be doing it out of necessity.
Articles this inflammatory in nature generally are highly fabricated. A notable example is the Ken Waks “I quit Google in two separate occasions because I’m that brilliant.”
“It’s not a crime when we do it.” Meanwhile I guarantee you this person has turned their nose up at lower class people shopping in the same stores like they could only be there to steal shit.
The boot you feel is the biological reality that we all need to eat (and more than just eat), and almost all of us need someone else to grow/raise/ sometimes prepare that food (and more than just food) for us. Supermarkets operate on extremely thin margins, and so do most farms, and so too most food factories. Most of them would go out of business if they cut prices by 5%.
People stealing from supermarkets cost the other shoppers around them, either through raised prices, or closed stores, if it’s bad enough. This is a major reason for the “food desert” phenomena, and why wealthy areas typically have cheaper groceries.
This is revisionist, that sequence of events was what caused him to start to play footsie with the idea of buying Twitter, the SEC saying that’s a big no-no is what made him actually make the offer to buy it and then he was forced by a court to finish the deal after a long legal battle to not buy it
Don’t forget the part where Dorsey literally conned him by playing to his ego. Jack cashed out almost a billion in cash to himself even though Twitter was close to bankruptcy. It was brilliant.
What cracks me up the most is that Jack already had a Twitter clone in the works, ready to be released once Musk burns down the old plattform and people wish for Twitter but without Musk back.
Genuine question: given that running a platform like that costs money, and that money must come from somewhere, what would you actually do if you were in charge of running it? You either take money from advertisers, or you charge users directly, and I'd hazard to guess that if you'd nuke your account upon seeing ads, you probably wouldn't pay actual money to use it.
Not the person you were speaking to, but get nationalised or run on donations as a non-profit.
But I do pay more than my share for most fediverse instances that I use (which reminds me, I use this one enough - should probably make my donation regular)
Honestly, I would love to see a Wikipedia-style social media platform take off, but I really don't know if the finances could work out. Wikipedia already struggles, and it's obscenely useful. I don't think nationalization is really feasible for social media - at least in an American context - because it would be subject to the government's legal limitations on regulating free speech, which are extremely minimal. A federally run platform would not be able to remove literal unironic Nazism, which is probably going to be a bit of a turn-off to normal people.
Not really, no. Freedom of speech is very strongly ingrained in our Constitution. The only legal restrictions on it are essentially direct threats or incitement of violence.
"Go kill this Jew" - Absolutely illegal.
"Go kill the Jews" - Illegal
"The Jews should be killed" - Borderline based on circumstances
"The Jews deserve to die" - Borderline, but probably protected by the Constitution
"The Jews deserved the Holocaust" - Almost certainly protected by the Constitution
Thank you for the breakdown. I had some vague conception of American free speech protections being pretty intense, but this illustrates the individual distinctions well
His claim of it being flattened caused the BBC to report that it was likely Israel who did it because they were the only ones who had ordinance powerful enough to level a hospital:
In the first story about the hospital on the BBC on Oct 17, correspondent Jon Donnison suggested Israel was behind the blast. Speaking shortly after 8pm on BBC News, he said: “It’s hard to see what else this could be, really, given the size of the explosion, other than an Israeli airstrike or several airstrikes.”
I admit, I was surprised at how many people are indifferent to the truth (at best) regarding this conflict. I know some people in real life who see a lot of antisemitism in modern American society and I used to think they were paranoid but now I’m not sure what else could be motivating this sort of motivated reasoning.
The problem is, that Israel made it relatively easy to fall for these stories by doing similar things for real in the past.
So you’ve got a credible source (BBC) reporting something that’s not really unheard of (i.e. kind of plausible) and that’s happening to align with what you’ve already suspected. Bam, rumor is born.
BTW, you had the same mechanism shortly after the attacks with the “Hamas beheaded babies” stories.
Republican officials, even after the insurrection, are using violent rhetoric. This is deliberate. They want the crazies from their party to engage in terrorism.
This is a party who wouldn’t even impeach and remove Trump after a violent coup.
It’s insanity that we’re not treating these people like the full-blown fascists they keep showing us they are.
That entire party needs to be purged from every level of government.
People who still call themselves Republicans after the coup are a disgrace. They are traitors.
Multiple rioters have broken into police armouries and have taken firearms. I saw a vid last night on twitter where one was carrying around a belt-fed LMG, if twitter wasn't fucked right now I'd link it.
They are vermin. They aren't protesting anything anymore, they're just lighting things on fire.
He never once told the truth about anything at all. He lied to a reporter about what he had for lunch. He lied about where he got his hair done. He was incapable of even the slightest shred of honesty. He also stole from every pot he could reach into.
There’s a reason it took conservatives a year of nonstop negative, embarassing press coverage before they did anything about it. They didn’t want to oust someone just for being a conservative.
Which is so odd to me. I get that some are trying to play the innocent until proven guilty thing. But the thing is, we know for a fact he has essentially lied about his resume and won an election based on it. Every place I worked, you could be fired if they found out you lied on an application or resume. Why should it be any different with this? So even without a conviction on the legal side of things, they all should have wanted him out based on fabricating his whole life.
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