ReCursing,
ReCursing avatar

Which is more comfortable to say? It's that one

KarthNemesis, (edited )
KarthNemesis avatar

literally neither was. they both looked and felt very alien.

i've pinned my suddenly having weird, "grammar is starkly bizarre" issues down to being a side effect of adjusting my meds. hoping that fades later.

edit: and also i do think your statement is a very practical answer in a general sense :)

Melkath,

An RTS.

Acronyms are generally proceeded by "an", not a.

Skua,

It's nothing to do with it being an acronym, it's just because the first sound pronounced is a vowel sound. Similarly, it's "an FPS", "an ATM", and "an SUV", but "a PPV event" and "a USB stick"

Melkath,

Fair enough and spot on.

a USB stick, while correct, challenges how I would have described it before you referenced it to me.

southsamurai,
@southsamurai@sh.itjust.works avatar

As others have already said, you go with the initial sound rather than the written letters. The written word is mostly built around conveying speech, so the rules fit what you would use if reading out loud. There are plenty of cases where writing conveys other cues than verbal, but the core of it still applies to sound.

That actually applies to most punctuation as well, depending on how one defines “most”.

Any initialism is going to be counted as the first letter being a word for the purpose of a/an usage, when said letters are pronounced as letters. In the case of RTS (an initialism), you wouldn’t ever say it as a word, unlike RAM, which is almost always pronounced as a word and is thus is an acronym. That’s the difference between those things, btw. We tend to call all of them acronyms, and that’s okay, but there is a difference.

MxM111,
MxM111 avatar

So “an RTS”?

southsamurai,
@southsamurai@sh.itjust.works avatar

Yup :)

ooterness,

The general rule is to go by sound.

Read aloud, RTS is pronounced “are-tee-ess”, so it starts with a vowel sound, so it’s “an RTS”.

The same rule also applies to regular words. For example, “an hour” is preferred because the “h” is silent.

Luci,
@Luci@lemmy.ca avatar

Any type of abbreviation follows the same rules as any other word. If it starts with a vowel sound, use an.

I think an RTS looks fine and a RTS sounds odd.

Edit: Forgot a source

e0qdk,
@e0qdk@reddthat.com avatar

I think “an RTS” is fine. The ‘n’ is added to an indefinite article if the word after it starts with a vowel sound, not just if it literally starts with a vowel letter.

Shadow,
@Shadow@lemmy.ca avatar

An RTS

HaywardT,

The letter “R” is spelled ar (Plural is ars) so “an R is correct.”

kieron115,

Merriam-Webster states that “the deciding factor for which of these words should be used is the sound that begins the word which follows the indefinite article, rather than the letter which does.” So “an RTS” or “a real-time strategy game” would both be appropriate.

MD756,

As a gamer, I’m going to assume RTS stands for Real-Time Strategy. I read somewhere a long time ago that just because a term is in the form of an acronym, that doesn’t change what comes before it. So in this case, it’s proper to use ‘a’ rather than ‘an.’ However, I acknowledge that saying ‘a RTS’ sounds icky, so I tend to use the “incorrect,” ‘an RTS.’

KarthNemesis, (edited )
KarthNemesis avatar

I read somewhere a long time ago that just because a term is in the form of an acronym, that doesn’t change what comes before it.

I was taught this as well, but unfortunately I think you and I were misled.
Still, they both sound "icky" to me, ha.

j4k3,
@j4k3@lemmy.world avatar

I’d rather see the vowel/consonant arbitrary rule rather than the subjective ‘what does pronunciation sound like.’ Ultimately, written language rules are determined by the consensus of use, not the other way around. In 1k years, the pronunciation will be obscured while the rule will be deterministic and obvious.

GammaGames,

It’s not about being a consonant, it’s about starting with a vowel sound. So you’d use an

KoboldCoterie,
@KoboldCoterie@pawb.social avatar

It’s based on how it’s pronounced, not written, so it’s “an R-T-S”, or “a real-time strategy game”.

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