Has anyone had success with debloating their phones?

Hey all!

I have been playing around with Universal Android Debloater a bit after getting my new S24+ but was wondering to see if there is a noticeable change when getting rid of things like Bixby, AR apps, and mobile carrier bloat (I hate you, Verizon).

Has anyone noticed an increase to battery life or snappiness or is it simply placebo? I never use the apps such as Samsung Smart Call because I use Google’s alternative so having it there would cause SOME sort of power/battery usage, no? I am only touching the “recommended” apps but scared to remove too many things to not completely wreak my install. I don’t wanna select something to have it crash and make things completely unusable.

github.com/…/universal-android-debloater-next-gen…

ladfrombrad,
@ladfrombrad@lemdro.id avatar

I take out Google Play Movies/YouTube/YouTube Music etc on every phone I buy these days especially since YT is a website and should not, be a system app and replaced by Newpipe.

Other than that I also like to delete my DCIM folder every now and then since it gets backed up to “my cloud” and seems to keep things, cleaner?

Shout out to SD Maid if you’re keen on cleaning things up?

Juice,

Yep. GrapheneOS

fine_sandy_bottom,

It’s placebo, but there’s nothing wrong with appreciating a phone that doesn’t have a heap of junk you don’t want. It’s not going to improve performance at all, in the majority of cases, but it might put a spring in your step knowing that it’s nice and tidy.

Max_P,
@Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me avatar

It can help, but the bloat usually isn’t that bad and you don’t really gain significant improvements especially on modern phones. Samsung in particular has very aggressive battery management. But also don’t be afraid, you can’t really turn off absolutely critical apps in a way that would break your phone without rooting it and that debloater won’t root it. Anything it does can easily be undone.

It’s kinda nice on Samsung phones in particular because it gets rid of dozens of apps that send you notifications to encourage you to use them. No I don’t want to sign in to the Galaxy Store and register my phone and receive updates on new Samsung products, I just want to use the damn phone. The performance increase is a bit secondary.

The ultimate debloat is flashing LineageOS, but you have a Samsung so you’re basically SoL when it comes to custom roms, especially Verizon ones.

otter,

While I can’t tell if it actually helps with performance, but I still do it because:

  • it reduces clutter in various menus and lists, which helps me find the apps I’m looking more easily
  • privacy implications with leaving an app installed / enabled
aleph,
@aleph@lemm.ee avatar

I used UAD on my S21 and it’s been fine. You can’t actually uninstall the unwanted packages but at least you can disable them. Can’t say I’ve noticed any particular improvement in performance, but it’s nice to know that my phone isn’t running a bunch of unnecessary services.

Be careful disabling Bixby if you intend to use features like Samsung Routines, though. I seem to recall doing that and breaking functionality, so I just went back and re-enabled it.

VHSJayden,

Oh okay, I’ll keep that in mind!

plactagonic,

I can’t tell a difference, I just uninstall all unnecessary apps when I buy a phone. The same way I selected all recommended apps from all lists and I got to about 5 apps on homescreen without a problem.

SnokenKeekaGuard,
@SnokenKeekaGuard@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Samsung phones come with an absolute shit tonne of bloat

VHSJayden,

Yeah, I agree. I came from a Pixel 6 Pro and had a Pixel phone ever since the original. I was tired of subpar battery life and noticed a massive upgrade moving to Samsung. Hardware is amazing, software can be meh at best from my experience.

KrokanteBamischijf,

That’s my take on phones in general. It’s a “pick one” situation. You can either have fancy hardware features or you can have freedom in software, not both.

Hopefully my current phone holds out long enough for there to be a compelling choice that somehow has both.

As things are right now, it’ll either be a Fairphone 5 for the freedom it brings, Pixel as a compromise, or Samsung Galaxy for the features.

VHSJayden,

That’s a good way to think about it, yeah. I’m really hoping the fairphone will become more popular in the coming years as I absolutely love the direction they seem to be taking.

KrokanteBamischijf,

There is valid criticism as well though. Mostly on the topic of software support duration and scope vs. consumer expectations. But there are also some realiability and hardware failure rate concerns.

It’s important to view those critiques in the context of Fairphone being an underdog company with a relatively small production volume onto which we project the same expectations we have of Apple and Samsung.

Ultimately it is viability of the business case determines how good of a value proposition the Fairphones will be long term. Which is a shame, because Fairphone’s vision is almost exactly what I want in a mobile device. It all leads to this catch-22 situation where the Fairphone is not quite the undisputed best choice it should be, and the only way for them to get there is that everyone pretends it is. It should be a self-fulfilling prophecy, but consumers don’t want to make concessions.

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