Some large geologic structures can actually form relatively quickly. e.g. The Great Lakes were created from meltwater of retreating glaciers 10-12 kya (although the underlying rift basin could be more like a billion years old).
I think I love Bill Nye’s response about the Grand Canyon during the evolution vs creation debate.
Basically he said if the Grand Canyon was created due to the flood, why aren’t there more canyons that have similar depths? If the flood truly occurred at the same time everywhere, surely we’d see evidence of the same water erosion patterns in more places but only one exists.
Young Earth Creationists will go off on all sorts of tangents to explain it. Like how the fossils were put there by satan to spread doubt.
Even when I was a Christian, YEC’s were the idiots we made fun of. It’s an entirely unnecessary contrivance, all because they imagine that the humans who wrote everything were infallible.
I have not read the book myself- someone elsewhere posted the images- but if the snail thing someone else posted is from the same book, and it appears to be, the answer is: terribly.
Ah ok, so what they mean to say isn’t so much that fossils contradict evolution but that the existence of fossils can be explained by the biblical account of Noah’s Flood.
Not the same thing of course, but then hardly surprising given the apparent level of scientific understanding on display.
A lot of dinosaurs I grew up learning about never even actually existed; they just came to be because archeology played fast and loose with the bones and was just making shit up.
Yeah it’s like arguing that a jigsaw puzzle isn’t real, despite seeing it laid out before them completely assembled but missing 6 or 7 of the hundreds of puzzle pieces.
19th century writers did us no favors when they started using ‘missing link’ to describe gaps in the human fossil record. Creationists ran wild with the idea that there is such a thing. Of course, now we have countless examples of transitional fossils and understand that evolution is not just jumping from one species to another species with well-defined separators between those two species, subverting the whole concept of a ‘missing link.’
This book looks familiar. I probably read it in the 90s when I was being taught all this shit. Learning that I was bamboozled about Noah’s flood and evolution is what pushed me completely out of Christianity.
No reason to be embarrassed. A child has to go through some really heavy shit before they can even begin to contemplate the fact that their parents are not the shining beacons of truth we automatically assume them to be.
There are buffalo jumps, which have been in use for thousands of years and have countless bones of the animals driven off of them that have never fossilized.
Gotta love that they went with a snail, which already has a calcified shell, and whose soft parts are only very rarely preserved as fossils. It’s a really bad example.
There’s too much proof evolution exists, so they had to pretend that is part of God’s plan too, but it doesn’t work like science says it does.
The Bible says Noah got 2 of every “kind” of animal. So they made up a new label for the animal Kingdom. Animals fall into different “kinds.”
Instead of getting 2 spider monkeys, 2 capuchin monkeys, two marmosets, etc, Noah got two chimpanzees. God killed every other primate species in the world with a flood. Then all the monkeys and apes we see today evolved in the 10,000 years (6,000? I forget) since they got off the ark.
So all the fossils from the flood are the species whose “kinds” were accounted for elsewhere.
Only somewhat related, but can you imagine what the smell must have been like from the trillions of human and animal corpses after that flood? I’ve thought about that plot point for years, but no one else seems to.
Biology has shown that the dying during mass extinctions has caused water to become inundated with nutrients which saw sponge populations explode. That global meat and vegetable stew is sitting out for thousands or millions of years and the odor is plastered on every available surface - what if the world still smells like death but we are all used to it?
One of the go-to talking points is to try to differentiate "macro-evolution" and "micro-evolution." So they can claim to be okay with things like wolves becoming domesticated dog breeds, etc...while still opposing "the lie" of evil-lution.
That’s always a fun one. Any observable examples of transitional species is “micro-evolution” and anything they can handwave away is “macro-evolution.”
Looks like it’s still for sale in some capacity on Amazon (looked it up by the ISBN). First print was 1979, so it dates itself. The sample pages are… interesting.
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