0110010001100010,

something something gay wedding cake. Last I checked LEO isn't a protected class. And they aren't even denying LEO, just those that come in on-duty and are armed. So yeah, get fucked pigs.

billy_bollocks, (edited )

Not all cops are bad. Don’t paint them all with the same brush.

Edit - Jesus y’all want to go lynch some cops. I wasn’t expecting so much bigotry from the crowd here. Confirmation bias is one hell of a drug I guess

ProIsh,

Yeah! Just 99%. Don’t lump them all together.

Not allll yardage yadda

billy_bollocks,

Your privilege is showing…

Prejudice comes in many forms. Be better than that

GrammatonCleric,
@GrammatonCleric@lemmy.world avatar

How in the hell do you keep from falling off that high horse?

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

How dare we be prejudiced against the largest criminal gang in the country!

AngryCommieKender,

In history. The US cops commit more murder, theft, rape, and assault than any other organization in history. They don’t even have Qualified Immunity, according to the full text of section 1983, but that’s not what was given to SCOTUS in 1982 when they heard Harlow V Fitzgerald.

RegularGoose,

It’s not prejudice when literally all the evidence supports it. Maybe you’d be process that evidence more clearly without that pig cock cutting off your oxygen supply.

DoomBot5,

The other 1% are also bad for just sitting idle.

FederatedSaint,

You sound like a racist.

ProvableGecko,

Cop is not a race

frunch,

When you’re reeeeeally fucking dumb, it is

vaultdweller013,

Eh, pig is technically a different species.

AngryCommieKender,

Yes, but they are intelligent, useful to society, and quite friendly with a tiny amount of socialization. None of that is true for the average cop.

Cethin,

Pigs,of both variety, that aren’t restrained turn feral very quickly and can become a massive problem.

liquidparasyte,

Pigs are very nice creatures.

LEOs are boars, nasty things.

sweetviolentblush,
@sweetviolentblush@sh.itjust.works avatar

how is that racist??? are you implying cops are a race lol

Hiuhokiguess,

That bunch is spoiled.

Cethin,

Pretty much anyone who’s a good cop isn’t a cop anymore because they turned against the bad cops. The bad cops are still there.

SouthEndSunset,

Is it true the good cops aren’t cops any more cause they got kicked out?

AngryCommieKender,

aclu.org/…/meet-officer-mader-fired-trying-do-rig…

This is just one of literally thousands of examples that I have seen over the last 30 years

It’s also not even the case I was looking for when I googled “cop fired for not shooting to kill.”

Ashe,

In an overwhelming number of situations, yes. Cops are intended to prioritize property over people and convictions over justice. Those who speak out about injustices face retribution from their peers and little defense from their union. Police unions act as criminal legal defense to eschew responsibility.

There have even been legal cases of departments refusing to hire people because they were “too smart”. This is largely speculated to be due to fear of those who are more intelligent speaking out, and having a moral compass of their own rather than blindly following.

SouthEndSunset,

Doesnt surprise me, considering they were created to stop the poors rising against the rich.

AngryCommieKender,

Yep. I’m one of them. I applied to the cybercrimes division of the Lexington, KY PD in my naive youth and got an official letter saying they refused to hire me because they were worried that I would “get bored and pursue other employment.” Asked a couple of my lawyer friends and they all agreed that was code for “we’re afraid that you’ll notice all the shit we do, and try to prosecute us” aka, “you’re too smart.”

Hyperi0n,

Press X to doubt.

CaptainAniki,

ACAB BOOTLICKER

billy_bollocks,

Lol I have no idea what that means but it sure sounds like bigotry.

Confirmation bias is one hell of a drug buddy. Don’t be like the people you hate

Laticauda,

They’re the ones painting themselves.

Stoneykins,

Cop is a job where all sorts of people, good and bad, go to become bad people. Acab

RegularGoose,

Yes, they are. Good cops are actively forced out of police departments. It’s a very well documented phenomenon.

Nougat,

Private business, police are not a protected class, the end.

Wookie,

Don’t give them ideas

foggy,

Idk gives me some costume ideas tho.

Introducing: SUPERCOP

AngryCommieKender,

That would blow up in their face at this point. None of them want a challenge to section 1983 now that we know the full text of the law. It would strip them if qualified immunity.

BaroqueInMind,
BaroqueInMind avatar

There is no debate, the bakery is private property. Fuck off pigs. Also please immediately respond if I call 911 kthxbye

nxdefiant,

yes and also yes. They have a job they agreed to do, and fuck them right off into the unemployment line if that hurts their feelings.

FuglyDuck,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

“We ban firearms in this establishment.”
“WE’re cops!”
“Got a warrant? Otherwise, you’re violating our rules and regulations and we ask you to leave.”

Kbobabob,

Better yet, have them arrested for trespassing. LMAO

iHUNTcriminals,

Or not yielding.

FuglyDuck,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

you can try… I’ve actually been there. Sort of.

Used to work contract security. my client was next to a MLB ball field- their parking lot literally was next to the service entrance, so the various staff that weren’t special (concessions, security, etc,) would park there. A lot of their ball game security are moonlighting cops or retired cops… they liked to tail gate after the game… but the city would revoke the license for running a parking lot if we allowed alcohol.

Getting drunken cops to leave your property when the other cops tried to be like “what’s the harm,” etc is no good.

someguy3,

I guess just keep calling the cops just to get the record that you tried to get the alcohol off.

FuglyDuck,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

it’s really not that simple. First, if you keep nuisance complaints, they’ll fine you (or in my case, fine my clients. which would have me fired.)
secondly, you annoy the cops enough, they’ll freeze you out regardless of what their policies/rules say, and as a security guard, you’re reliant on them to come save you if you ever have an active shooter or, more likely, just an aggressive asshole who doesn’t like being told they can’t do whatever it is they’re trying to do.

someguy3,

Well do it often enough that you can show the city department that you don’t allow alcohol and tried to get them removed (as seen by police records).

stopthatgirl7,
stopthatgirl7 avatar

you’re reliant on them to come save you if you ever have an active shooter

…how’d that work out for those kids in Uvalde, tho.

FuglyDuck,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

Exactly the point. It didn’t.

RaoulDook,

you’re reliant on them to come save you if you ever have an active shooter

This is not a good plan, you need to be responsible for your own safety because you can’t count on the imaginary good guy cops to save you from anything. It may be 30 minutes before they show up, or they may not even show up at all.

FuglyDuck,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

This is the only plan we got.

Liability is a bitch, ain’t it?

SulaymanF,

That really is a tough one. The only chance you have is to escalate and demand the duty sergeant come down and deal with the problem of his unruly officers or make an extremely public complaint to the media and mayor that will force a response.

nilloc,

You could try the state police non-emergency.

Or find a parking/fire violation that the fire department would care about. I’ve seen them put cops in there place a few times. Even pushed a cruiser down the street in Boston when it was double parked in there way.

I wish I’d had a camera phone back then, I’m pretty sure they don’t report those kind of things into logs that end up in the paper.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Fun story time… a couple of friends of mine were walking home after a night of drinking and some cops pull over and get out and say, “two white men in dark clothes just robbed the gas station down the road and you fit that description.” One friend said, “you’re two white men in dark clothes so you fit that description too. I’m going to have to make a citizen’s arrest.” My other friend said the cuffs got put on them at light speed. They got charged with public intoxication. We don’t know if the two white men in dark clothes were ever caught.

FuglyDuck,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

Lol…. So… uh. Please tell me your friend is putting that snark to use,

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Sadly, he passed away. And only in his 20s. And yes, we lost a great comic mind. I say this as someone who has been paid to do stand-up and write comedy: he was far funnier than I will ever be. I still miss him 20 years later.

FuglyDuck,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

Damn…. I’m sorry man.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I’m sorry too, but that’s life. And the older you get, the more friends you lose along the way. I’m just glad we were friends for the time he was alive.

PseudoSpock,
@PseudoSpock@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Take it a step further and say you don’t serve any living cops, but you’d be more than happy to cater their funeral.

cactus,

Catering to a cop funeral means serving living cops

Not_mikey,

For some more context this place, reems, really isn’t a bakery so much as a middle eastern take out place. The main store is currently closed down though so the only place they have open is a counter serve food court style place in the ferry building, so the cops didn’t get kicked out of the place, they either went to the counter and the cashier refused to serve, or more likely, they saw the new policy online and threw a hissy fit without actually going.

The founder is a Palestinian leftist, so this probably was targeted towards cops/military.

I’d highly recommend going here if your on a tourist trip and end up in the ferry building, not just for the cop hate, but there wraps are great as well.

Lowered_lifted,

Based bakery. If the sporting goods store where they bought the piece makes people not carry and they respect that then they should respect other stores that ask people not to.

drewisawesome14,

Didn’t SCOTUS rule that private businesses can now discriminate?

ZMonster,
@ZMonster@lemmy.world avatar

Since armed police is not a protected class then I hardly think it matters.

flop_leash_973,

If its legal for someone to hypothetically not create a wedding announcement website for gay people because she doesn’t want to serve those kinds of people, then there should be nothing wrong with not wanting to serve armed cops.

<a href="">https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-rules-web-designer-refused-work-sex-weddings-rcna68629</a>

Baking food and making coffee could be argued to be every bit as “creative” as a website can be if the lawyer is good enough.

Rediphile,

One is outright discrimination based on sexual orientation. The other is simply a policy applied to all patrons.

It should absolutely be legal to say ‘no shoes no service’ or ‘has gun no service’ even if it was not legal to discriminate based on sexual orientation/race/gender/etc. They aren’t at all the same thing.

Colorcodedresistor,

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  • cristo,

    Not in San Fran they wont. They let criminals run rampant but wont let anyone without Trump money get through the concealed carry permit process. Bruen should have fixed that but who knows if Cali will actually listen with Newsom putting that constitutional amendment to neuter the 2nd amendment out there.

    stopthatgirl7,
    stopthatgirl7 avatar

    SF has an extremely lot violent crime rate, so what exactly do folks need guns like that for? The “high crime rate” is property crime, like theft. Unless folks want to be out here shooting people for smash and grabs.

    San Francisco is an unusual city when it comes to crime

    reagansrottencorpse,

    Oh these poor disenfranchised pigs!!

    FrankTheHealer,

    Can we stop posting articles from The Independent. Its literally owned my a Russian media mogul with ties to Boris Johnson and whose father worked in the KGB

    FancyManacles,

    TIL. Thank you, Internet stranger

    FrankTheHealer,

    You’re welcome fellow internet stranger

    isVeryLoud,

    I believe you, but sauce?

    FrankTheHealer, (edited )
    foggy,

    Does this police chief have beef with the MLB, NFL, NBA, NHL, MLS, and every other major sports organization?

    None of them allow firearms on site unless you are on duty

    phaeton83,

    And an off duty cop just shot someone at the White Sox game last week

    foggy,

    Welp they’re gonna catch a massive fine, and their whole security staff is going to hate their jobs for the next few years.

    ChonkyOwlbear,

    It’s not like they check for concealed carry though. I did security checks for a MLB team for a bit and I definitely waved through guns after they flashed a badge.

    AngryCommieKender, (edited )

    You might be interested to know that cops, judges, politicians, and all other government officials don’t actually have Qualified Immunity according to the full text of section 1983 of the federal code. The SCOTUS wasn’t handed the full text in 1982 when they heard Harlow V Fitzgerald. The text was changed illegally in 1874 by one guy when he copied the 1871 Congressional Record into the Federal Register.

    Look up “16 crucial words that went missing from a landmark civil rights law” for more info.

    nytimes.com/…/qualified-immunity-supreme-court.ht…

    be_excellent_to_each_other,
    be_excellent_to_each_other avatar

    Look up “16 crucial words that went missing from a landmark civil rights law” for more info.

    Why would you go through that entire description and end with that instead of just linking an article about it?

    https://irishchronicle.com/politics/16-crucial-words-that-went-missing-from-a-landmark-civil-rights-law/

    (Having said that, thanks for bringing it up, I hadn't heard about this.)

    incogtino,

    (Not OP) Thanks but that particular article is AI generated garbage (or just thesaurus generated plagiarism) - you can tell when they replace technical terms like ‘judgement’ or ‘decision’ with synonyms like ‘choice’

    While the Cato Institute are some sort of libertarian think-tank, at least this is a real human-written article, and it links back to some better sources:

    cato.org/…/judge-willett-concurrence-highlights-q…

    AngryCommieKender,

    This is the original source that I saw

    nytimes.com/…/qualified-immunity-supreme-court.ht…

    be_excellent_to_each_other,
    be_excellent_to_each_other avatar

    Well dammit. Thank you!

    Son_of_dad,

    Police aren’t a race, orientation or protected class. A cop can in fact remove his gun and uniform, it’s not attached to his skin

    drewisawesome14,

    Regardless didnt scotus basically rule you can discriminate?

    flop_leash_973,

    For “creative” endeavors, yes. If “creative” covers baking would probably be down to how good of a argument a lawyer could make is.

    Kolanaki,
    @Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

    A cop can in fact remove his … uniform

    They better have something on underneath it if they do that in public, tho.

    GladiusB,
    @GladiusB@lemmy.world avatar

    Have you been to San Francisco?

    Kolanaki,
    @Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

    Yes. People don’t usually go around naked. Even during pride and even though it is legal.

    It’s too damn cold. 🥶

    GladiusB,
    @GladiusB@lemmy.world avatar

    Just kidding yo!

    MimicJar,

    I was going to say, “Actually that’s not quite true in San Francisco”, but it seems the law changed recently (2012) …wikipedia.org/…/Social_nudity_in_San_Francisco

    Still, based on the existing laws, you could walk around in your underwear and be fine.

    afraid_of_zombies,

    We have had a surprising high number of bakery related controversies. I think I will continue to shop at my local supermarket bakery. I want a cake not to have to make a statement.

    be_excellent_to_each_other,
    be_excellent_to_each_other avatar

    Seriously. Far less quicksand, killer bees, crocodiles in sewers, nuclear war, and global cooling than I was brought up to expect.

    Far more bakery controversies and fascists than my childhood led me to prepare for, though.

    afraid_of_zombies,

    Read the Madness of crowds. He has a whole chapter on the number of people who were fined, imprisoned, murdered over how pointy shows can be and how much or how little facial hair a man can have.

    trustnoone,

    Sounds like someone wants to have his cake and eat it too lol

    afraid_of_zombies,

    I do. Who wouldn’t want that? Are you telling me if infinite cake that always took up the same amount of space was an option you wouldn’t want it?

    Son_of_dad,

    Enjoy your disgusting supermarket cake

    afraid_of_zombies,

    I will and you won’t get a single piece.

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