some_guy,

These honorary doctorates need to go away. They serve no purpose for honest people and grifters will use the credential as though they got the education.

generalpotato,

If the honorary doctorate is in enabling a genocide and trying to gas light the nation and the world, then sure. Well deserved.

disguy_ovahea,

You are free to fixate, but many have made note of Biden’s other actions as well.

generalpotato,

Shunning him for having the blood of 20k kids on his hands is not “fixating”. Overlooking a crime as egregious as this in the interest of things like the economy/financial stability and general well being of self/our society is exactly what’s wrong with the world and how we’ve gotten here.

Maybe you should “fixate” more so that you have some more perspective on what it means to lose a child or a loved one.

Bernie_Sandals, (edited )
@Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world avatar

Shunning him for having the blood of 20k kids on his hands is not “fixating”.

Even accepting your numbers, why is the blame entirely on Biden for this? I’ve seen far more hate for Biden than Netanyahu on here, and yet Biden is literally the only reason aid has gotten through again after the Israeli blockade, Biden is the only reason Israel is practicing any restraint at all, Biden is the only reason that there’s even a hope of a ceasefire or lasting peace.

Seems really like you should be blaming the far right government actually carrying out the war, and not the centre-left government an ocean away whose been trying to walk the line between scolding Netanyahu at every turn, and also trying not to piss off the 60% of the country that supports Israel.

generalpotato,

Even accepting your numbers,

I see where this is going already… wow

why is the blame entirely on Biden for this

Because he’s the one signing multibillion dollar aid packages with our tax dollars funding a genocide and literally ignoring calls for ceasefire. I mean, the only way you don’t know that is if you’re living under a rock.

Biden is literally the only reason aid has gotten through again after the Israeli blockade, Biden is the only reason Israel is practicing any restraint at all, Biden is the only reason that there’s even a hope of a ceasefire or lasting peace.

You must not know how much influence the US has over Israel. It literally takes one phone call to reign in Israel and Netanyahu to stop their reign genocidal campaign. The US has repeatedly shot down Palestinian voices calling for a peace deal, recognizing Palestinian UN membership, ICC votes on investigating war crimes and trialing Netanyahu. Biden is the only reason why this has dragged on for 7 months. This could have been over on literally any day after Oct 7th. Rafah was supposed to Biden’s “red line” and now that’s being invaded as well. Some job working towards peace. As an example, see how the US reacted (it literally said Israel was on it’s own) when Israel wanted to “retaliate” against Iran for launching attacks on it’s airspace and how Israel piped down against Iran whilst “vowing” to retaliate.

Seems really like you should be blaming the far right government actually carrying out the war, and not the centre-left government an ocean away whose been trying to walk the line between scolding Netanyahu at every turn, and also trying not to piss off the 60% of the country that supports Israel.

Seems like you really should be reading up more on how influential US foreign policy really is instead of clinging to democratic talking points meant to deflect from complicity in this event.

Bernie_Sandals,
@Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world avatar

You must not know how much influence the US has over Israel. It literally takes one phone call to reign in Israel and Netanyahu to stop their reign genocidal campaign.

And you say this because??? Oh because you heard it once and now you parrot it fucking everywhere even though it couldn’t be further than the truth. Israel is not a puppet of the U.S, and the U.S can’t just control it.

The US has repeatedly shot down Palestinian voices calling for a peace deal,

Because literally every peace deal Hamas has offered has been “Leave Gaza and let us prepare to do another October 7th”

Rafah was supposed to Biden’s “red line” and now that’s being invaded as well.

I literally watched the State Department press briefing on this last night, they’re still condemning any action towards Rafah, and Israel hasn’t even fully moved into Rafah yet, just issued an evacuation order, which even that the Biden Admin condemned for not being thought through enough.

Seems like you really should be reading up more on how influential US foreign policy really is instead of clinging to democratic talking points meant to deflect from complicity in this event.

I have and it’s not that influential, earlier in the 2000s Israel was pulling the same sort of shit in Gaza, Bush blocked their weapons (Just as Biden has already done) and Israel just kept on doing it’s war crimey thing.

Because he’s the one signing multibillion dollar aid packages with our tax dollars funding a genocide and literally ignoring calls for ceasefire. I mean, the only way you don’t know that is if you’re living under a rock.

I know that certain media sources love to put it this way, but Biden has not been ignoring calls for ceasefire Blinken has literally been the one setting up most of the Ceasefire proposals that Hamas has constantly shot down. But I’m sure you know Hamas has been an opponent of peace at every step, just as they bombed the southern border crossing where aid was starting to come through, Hamas doesn’t care about the people of Gaza, it wants to cling to power at any chance, even if that means starving a city on international TV to try and bring the world against Israel.

generalpotato,

And you say this because??? Oh because you heard it once and now you parrot it fucking everywhere even though it couldn’t be further than the truth. Israel is not a puppet of the U.S, and the U.S can’t just control it.

reuters.com/…/israels-netanyahu-vows-victory-afte…

abcnews.go.com/Politics/…/story?id=109226739

Because literally every peace deal Hamas has offered has been “Leave Gaza and let us prepare to do another October 7th”

apnews.com/…/un-vote-palestinian-membership-us-ve…

time.com/…/us-veto-vote-palestine-full-un-members…

npr.org/…/un-security-council-gaza-cease-fire-vot…

axios.com/…/gaza-ceasefire-resolution-un-security…

I know that certain media sources love to put it this way, but Biden has not been ignoring calls for ceasefireBlinken has literally been the one setting up most of the Ceasefire proposals that Hamas has constantly shot down. But I’m sure you know Hamas has been an opponent of peace at every step, just as they bombed the southern border crossing where aid was starting to come through, Hamas doesn’t care about the people of Gaza, it wants to cling to power at any chance, even if that means starving a city on international TV to try and bring the world against Israel.

aljazeera.com/…/the-goal-is-to-destroy-gaza-why-i…

apnews.com/…/israel-palestinians-gaza-hamas-war-h…

npr.org/…/israel-hamas-war-netanyahu-rejects-hama…

reuters.com/…/three-phase-ceasefire-deal-hamas-ba…

See how much of a fucking idiot you’re being?

grue, (edited )

See how much of a fucking idiot you’re being?

You’re the one who’s a pro-genocide concern troll, not him. You’re Hell-bent on getting Trump elected so that Israel has free rein to murder every single Palestinian and you’re butthurt that we see through your tactics.

generalpotato,

Ahhh there it is… iF yOu dOnT foR BiDeN, YoU VoTE FoR TruMp

No genius. The democrats had 4 years to out forth a viable candidate that wasn’t Biden, but they didn’t. They could have picked Bernie instead of Hilary in 2016, but they didn’t. America will survive another Trump president despite popular rhetoric. Palestine will be erased, but history won’t forget.

At the this point, the American democracy is already fucked because we’re being forced to choose between two geriatric assholes.

Spare me your bullshit.

grue,

Are you capable of admitting the truth, that Palestinians will fare worse under Trump than Biden?

generalpotato,

Are you capable of not deflecting and talking about Biden’s policies objectively?

grue,

So that’s a “no” on your part, then. Thanks for proving your bad faith.

generalpotato, (edited )

That’s a “read and reread my response above” if you have trouble understanding and fuck off if you’re going to put words in my mouth.

Thanks for playing.

grue, (edited )

LOL, your credibility is being destroyed all on your own. Don’t blame me for your own defects.

generalpotato,

Is it? Because I haven’t seen one response to the sources and the arguments I made that was actually in “good faith” ironically.

Keep trying though. :-)

grue,

the arguments I made that was actually in “good faith” ironically.

Yeah, “good faith” in ironic scare quotes is right!

You can’t resist admitting your guilt even as you protest your innocence, LMAO.

generalpotato,

Cool… cool cool cool.

xmunk,

I’m really curious what “roughly a dozen” is here… did the majority of faculty vote in favor?

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