whoreticulture

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whoreticulture,

lmao I thought for a second this was just your comment about the situation, not your advice on what to say

whoreticulture,

Your ideas are overly aggressive, even just leaving. Just change the topic or say “I’d rather not discuss this at work.”

whoreticulture,

I mean, functionally it does mean exactly that.

whoreticulture,

Ahh, I meant the parts of Europe that are still in the EU but that is interesting to know.

whoreticulture,

I never said I wasn’t voting, but also I totally understand why many people do not. I already told you I don’t want to chat about this, because I think you and I aren’t aligned whatsoever and it’s useless to discuss political strategy. It’s weird that you keep demanding I answer a question … like I care?? About answering you?

whoreticulture,

It always comes out that y’all are just as hateful. You’re the one gleefully threatening fascism.

whoreticulture,

The bar is so low, just don’t do genocide. You’re the nihilist who thinks we have to accept that.

whoreticulture,

concern-trolling

whoreticulture,

Lmao I don’t give a fuck about United States military strategy, especially if it requires funding genocide to enact. That’s a horrible reason to do genocide. Because the land will be useful for a world superpower? Do you hear yourself???

whoreticulture,

I heard you, you care more about military positioning than genocide.

whoreticulture,

yup! I said that

whoreticulture,

🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻 guess you can’t handle a fucking emoji

theangryblackwoman.com/…/the-privilege-of-politen…

politeness is a social construct that disenfranchises the rightfully pissed. idk who is moderating here but they are clearly dumb as a box of brix if they think they’re helping anything by blocking my comments that are clearly constructive as well as profane

whoreticulture,

What did I say that was an attack? “fuck you”? is that an attack lmao ? these rules are arbitrarily enforced because I have seen people say that all the time, or say “fuck you” just in more words that they think are clever. the only reason I didn’t put that in this post was I just forgot to lol

whoreticulture,

You mention the civility rules, excuse me I had to rewrite this damn comment like three times lol

whoreticulture,

How is “may I suggest 4chan”, a notoriously transphobic website, directed at someone from the Trans Lemmy, not supposed to be an insult?

How is “fuck you” an insult? It doesn’t attack you in any way whatsoever it just shows disrespect. I’m allowed to not respect you. Didn’t say anything about you or even call you an asshole.

You’re not protecting marginalized groups, you’re enforcing a standard of civility that is usually used to tell minorities “shut up, why are you so angry”

If protecting minorities was the goal, the rule would be against racism, sexism, etc… but that’s not the rule.

I already explained several times why I’m against the policy but idk I guess you can’t read that well? Really the only explanation I have here.

whoreticulture, (edited )

Okay, if the civility rule is in place to protect minorities as you say, than why would we need a civility rule? That’s my point. We already have rules against bigotry.

You totally missed my point 🙄 and then you get all snooty about “facts unchallenged”. When really you just continually misunderstand or ignore my very clearly spelled out argument against this dumbass civility rule. Is this civility? You’re just ignoring all my points and posting useless screenshots.

whoreticulture,

Okay, and can you see how this is messed up? People most often report “incivility” when someone is expressing a minority opinion. 🙄🙄

whoreticulture,

facts

whoreticulture, (edited )

My point is that civility rules are oppressive. Allow people to be justifiably upset. The civility rules will always favor majority held opinions. Read the article I linked, do some of your own research. You’re upholding a dumbass rule that will inevitably, and has been, inconsistently used.

another source

youtu.be/ezQa9MzJiBg?si=fkXKddpsGfuvxN4X

whoreticulture, (edited )

Yes I heard your agreement the first time!! 💖 But this is extremely well articulated and I hope the moderation team reads it. These civility rules uphold some nasty power dynamics.

I have, as a trans person, experienced being on the blunt end of these civility rules for being “impolite” about my disagreement. Passion is not a crime, and at the end of the day, being called an asshole isn’t really going to hurt anyone.

We should definitely moderate for slurs, but we don’t even do that consistently. I remember seeing a thread filled with heavily upvoted sexist slurs against Hillary Clinton. She does suck, but when you’re gleefully using words like “cunt” and “bitch” to articulate that, you’re creating an environment that’s kinda scary for women.

whoreticulture, (edited )

I said “that’s not the rule”, not “that’s not a rule”. As in, that’s not the rule you’re talking about. You’re literally just misunderstanding me, probably deliberately, and ignoring all my points to focus on pedantics! This is why you suck so bad dude!

You’re ignoring the topic at hand to focus on something that you misinterpreted. Embarassing for you. Can’t believe you’re trying to turn this discussion into a grammar lesson, rather than the fact that your enforcement of civility rules is a shit thing to do.

So back to the topic, if civility rules exist to defend minorities, which is what you claimed … why do we need them if we already have rules against bigotry and hate speech!!!

And also back to the topic, how is continuing to ignore the conversation to rudely insist on your incorrect interpretation of my clear words… even after I clarified … how is that civil lmao

whoreticulture, (edited )

I’ve explained multiple times, and if you had bothered to engage with my points rather than ignore them completely you would understand. Another poster also wrote out several paragraphs explaining why. You are PRETENDING to not have seen these explanations I wrote out.

Civility rules focus on the tone rather than the content, which is highly problematic because marginalized groups are often rightfully pissed the fuck off. That’s probably like, the fifth time I’ve written out a version of that.

You are bringing up 4chan again after I already told you that that’s fucked up since it’s an extremely transphobic site, and I am a trans person. That’s not civil lmao. You can continually insult me by telling me to go to 4chan, but if I say “fuck you” I gety posts taken down. Make that make sense. Nah, you won’t because you get off on the power trip.

I have seen how you operate multiple times. You get into arguments with people, nitpick over dumb shit, and then when someone gets frustrated and uses meanie-poopoo-head language you take out your moderation powers. You have done this to me and I’ve seen you do this in other threads to other users. You really suck dude.

whoreticulture,

I know you’re not a mod here 🙄 but that still gives you weight. You won’t be taken down for civility because, as I have explained several times, the rules are enforced selectively and unfairly. You have more power in any community because of your status as a mod in other large communities, and because your style of incivility is assholeish condescension which is easy to pretend is polite. You are literally ignoring all my points, again, because you can’t dispute what I say, and you benefit from the rules.

whoreticulture,

lmao just saw your post history and literally one of your last post is FLAUNTING your mod power, literally just proving my point. You think being a mod gives you social weight, which it does, and the other mods also believe. And you can’t see how incivility rules are enforced unfairly??? You are just pretending not to understand this.

whoreticulture, (edited )

You KNOW that you are being a polite asshole and won’t get your comment taken down. That is the entire point of my contention with you and the inequitable civility rule. You are IGNORING all of my points.

You bragged about how you’re such a good guy because you’re a mod. You just keep pretending to miss the point! It’s really obvious!

You have literally not addressed anything I have said and have perpetually deflected. I think the only reason you are continuing to respond is you are hoping I’ll get frustrated and say something that a mod will ban me over. This is exactly why these civility rules suck. This is why you suck. You have no response to any of my explanations and then lie and say I haven’t explained myself. Every time I see you comment, my day gets worse, because you’re always doing the same thing in every discussion I’ve seen you in.

And not once have you said “my bad” or “I’m wrong” even though you have been mistaken or presumptive multiple times. 🙄

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