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maegul, to python in Conda is moving to Mastodon & LinkedIn | conda.org/blog
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So that’s interesting. From memory, Peter Wang, Anaconda co-founder and CEO, was pretty pro-musk about Twitter in the early days of the migration, was always more of a BlueSky person and to this day doesn’t have a personal presence on masto.

So I’d have to guess something has passed his own threshold or this came from wider company many of whom may have been on the fediverse already.

Midnitte,

Perhaps his non-apology over antisemitism?

maegul,
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Dunno really. I’ve seen P Wang post on BlueSky and there seems to be a strong “touch grass and get off of social media” message in a few of his posts, so I’d say Musk kinda burnt him out on the promises of social media (which he has always been positive on AFAICT) by creating too much cognitive dissonance.

My bet would be he let anaconda people decide from themselves where their social media presence is.

ericjmorey,
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As far as I can tell Conda.org is run independently of Anaconda. Anaconda uses the projects built and developed by the Conda Community. It seems that some employees of Anaconda are paid to work on Conda community projects. But that seems to be the extent of the relationship.

I don’t like or use Anaconda. It’s the definition of bloat and I’m not sure what their value proposition is. Installing and running Conda (or Mamba) is easy to do without installing or using Anaconda. In fact, it’s the recommended method for installing Mamba.

maegul,
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Huh. I wasn’t aware that a full separation had occurred. Is this new-ish? I recall Travis Oliphant in his Lex Friedman interview saying he thought Anaconda (which he’d left by that point) needed to build more of a community around conda. So maybe this was done after then? Still, I have wonder how closely knit the whole thing is with anaconda the company.

Otherwise, yes, Anaconda is bloat. And Hear Hear for Mamba. I told a Pythonista about it a while ago, explained that it’s written in C++ to fix condo’s performance issues. And they got a little upset that it was against the point/“dream” of doing everything in Python. I was quite curt and pointed out that everyone loved using mamba and that Python people should have cared more about there performance critiques.

ericjmorey,
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Many libraries that work efficiently in Python are calling a lower level language anyway. But I’m told that much of the efficiency of mamba has been ported to conda so it seems they did eventually care.

I could very well be incorrect about the separation of Anaconda Inc and Conda, but it seems like it from the statements I read. Unfortunately I can’t seem to find them again.

maegul,
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Oh yea it was a silly statement about Python.

FWIW, my understanding is that Mamba came out of Oliphant’s new outfit started after he left anaconda.

ericjmorey,
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The governance section on the Conda Organization git hub maks it clear that the Conda Organization is independent. The Steering Council serves as a board of directors which must have at least 9 members and no more than 2 can have a financial relationship from the same source (so Anaconda Inc can only have at most 2 of 9 members on the Council).

This wasn’t what I read before but seems more conclusive.

maegul,
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Sounds pretty conclusive to me. Thanks for going the extra mile on that!!

roguetrick, to fediverse in Conda is moving to Mastodon & LinkedIn | conda.org/blog

The walled garden social networks have a serious downside compared to fediverse networks and that's the registration wall. If you're primarily publishing press releases and announcements, people will be unable to effectively share through links what you're publishing. Mastodon let's you bypass that while still allowing for the engagement that the other platforms do. And you don't have to play pay to win with the algorithm to get your stuff to actually show up on feeds of the people already fucking following you.

ericjmorey,
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And you don’t have to play pay to win with the algorithm to get your stuff to actually show up on feeds of the people already fucking following you.

Unfortunately, many people and organizations want to be able to pay for visibility. Which is antithetical to most fediverse services.

macattack, to fediverse in Conda is moving to Mastodon & LinkedIn | conda.org/blog

One of us…

QuazarOmega, to fediverse in Conda is moving to Mastodon & LinkedIn | conda.org/blog

Seems like a very weird move to embrace both Mastodon and LinkedIn and saying that both are more welcoming, LinkedIn has always felt like a necessary evil to me more than anything, being Microsoft and all, aggressive pushing of premium services and unreasonable default email notification settings that spam your inbox into oblivion.

Anyway welcome Conda!

spoilerBut PDM ftw ( ❛ - ❛)

ericjmorey,
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To the best of my knowledge, PDM can use Conda as a backend. So go ahead and use them both if you want.

QuazarOmega,

Oh I had no idea, I’m not advanced enough to know the use of that yet but I’ll keep it in mind, thanks

slazer2au,

I agree, LinkedIn is Facebook but for business people.

QuazarOmega,

That’s the perfect description

PlexSheep,

What is pdm?

QuazarOmega,

It’s a saner Python package manager, it’s so easy to use (at least at the basic level I need it for) and it actually implements the latest standard for packaging defined by PEP unlike Poetry, both of them are great in their own right though.
If you’re interested this is the website pdm-project.org

recursive_recursion, to r_programming in Conda is moving to Mastodon & LinkedIn | conda.org/blog
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The move to Linkedin seems a bit weird but I’m glad that at least they’re also branching out to Mastodon, both are def better alternatives than fucking twitter

ericjmorey,
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Agreed 💯

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