It depends on what the culture defines as acceptable politics. It’s so extreme that it’s an executable offense in some countries and has been so in our culture too. We have to fight to keep it from that
The document lists symbols that violent extremists use, but explicitly calls out that not everyone who uses those symbols is a violent extremist.
The punisher skull is also in there, but that doesn’t mean they’re claiming every asshole with a punisher skull on their truck is a terrorist. Just that if someone with a punisher skull on their truck shoots up a mosque, that the punisher iconography is evidence that it was an act of right-wing militia terrorism.
According to highly credible german far right Qanon followers german antifascists get paid 600€ (656,15$) per demo they visit. They also get 20€ (21,87$) per sticker they spread. I demand the same payment for any antifascist worldwide! International Solidarity!
This is essentially my pet conspiracy theory about Alex Jones. He was a plant by the CIA, to make all conspiracy theorists look absolutely batshit crazy. By having him peddle the extreme theories right alongside the “these are a little too close to reality, and the people are getting dangerously close to figuring it out” theories, they’re able to discredit those accurate theories. Because now they don’t need to attack the individual theory; They can just attack the face of conspiracy theories.
But are you willing to fight for it? Maybe take up arms, defend your friends and neighbors, or even travel the world to resist fascism wherever it arises?
Labeling antifascism as violent extremism isn’t new, it’s a way that Americans were punished for fighting fascists in other countries before we went to war with them like in Spain.
Oooh, I’ve noticed this, too. That there are some ‘conspiracies’ that are / could be true, but if you talk about them to anyone you are instantly one of the crazies. They have weponised the stupid.
I feel like that conspiracy is too smart for the CIA. Remember this is the same organization that regularly had employees secretly drugging each others coffee with LSD so much that it became common place around the office. And also tried to convince communists in the Philippines that vampires where real despite Philippine culture/mythology not having vampires.
Alex Jones says the same thing the FBI does about antifascists. He edges for violence daily, and is using radical christianity to do so. He is absolutely not a plant; he is the face of radical christofascist terrorism. It doesnt matter if he’s serious or not; it doesnt matter that he’s just bilking listeners for money… The fact is that he is a terrorist leader and agitator and should be arrested or executed. If the FBI hasnt done so then we know where their allegiances lie.
Putting him in prison and taking away his business/ dissolving it and taking away his assets should be enough. There’s no reason for two wrongs when You’re trying to go for justice ⚖️ / just society.
Eye for an eye never got us no where ( xept sometimes)
See I believe that for 20th century conspiracy theorists. I fully suspect there was an effort to combine aliens, government mind control (and what would eventually be revealed as MK ULTRA), the remnants of the protocols of the elders of Zion and other similar conspiracy theories, COINTELPRO, and other things all together by the FBI. It’s part of COINTELPRO style tactics. Make them sound ridiculous and drive them so far to the extreme they’re hard to listen to.
That said Alex Jones seems pretty much an unintended consequence of all the conspiratorial milieu
This guy - Paul Bennewitz - was a radio operator in WWII and opened a radio repair shop near an Air Force base. He picked up some encrypted signals from the base and went public with them, claiming they were from aliens.
The Air Force decided this was a great cover story, and teased him with information including sending "Men in Black" to look for him, until he was convinced. He got so convinced he became a paranoid schizophrenic, and died in a mental institution not tool long ago.
All of that alien sci fi stuff has its origin with this poor man. The X Files, two Will Smith movies, and everything in that oeuvre including the excellent Resident Alien, all have their roots in the mental abuse my government perpetrated on this poor, curious man.
Excuses to label you as a criminal so their overreach is justified.
Talk about double speak, being against fascists and racists means you’re terrorist now, LMAO.
FBI has long since been relabeled as the face of the cia, nsa and are the gen pop wranglers.
Call this shit the fuck out for what it is, an attack against Americans of ALL political backgrounds. This is a unified issue, they might only be banging on your neighbors door but you are next.
Yup, it’s setting up a legal framework that allows them to designate anyone that ruffles feathers or speaks out as a violent extremist, and haul them off without much recourse (it’s worth noting that if you’re arrested on terrorism charges, your rights are automatically suspended).
Funnily enough, this leaves out Proud Boy symbolism. It lists other right wing militia symbols, including black and gold which includes the Proud Boys though.
It’s just a list of symbols that are sometimes used by terrorist/violent extremist/agitators though, and it explicitly says their usage or identity with these groups is not enough on its own, so it isn’t as bad as the headline implies it’s still not good though by any means.
I seriously have the impression that a huge amount of people can only see things in black and white
They seem to think if someone condemns Hamas they condemn Palestrina as a whole - or that if someone says the terrorism and taking hostages was bad they automatically support whatever Israel is doing since whatever it is it will be less cruel than what Hamas did.
Why does it seem so bewildering to do many people to see both sides as bad but also see that removing Hamas is a goal that’s worth fighting for as it’s the only road to peace for Palestine?
What are they protesting FOR - they are only against the current war (which is fine but very shortsighted) as far as I can tell.
They want them to stay under Hamas control? They don’t want a proposed united Palestine under control of the west bank government?
They want a Palestine “from the river to the sea” which means all Jews and Israel as a country is gone - but what happens if they won’t go peacefully? Would it be okay to attack civilians to drive them out of the country you claim is yours?
This whole thing is fucking complex - by picking a side like this it’s cutting too many corners and very shortsighted imho…
I was able to find a video of obvious police agitators for my family member a few years ago (they had cop boots and were allowed to cross the cop line when the crowd turned on them), but it’s been memory-holed. I can’t find it after about 10-20 searches. If someone still had this, please link. The leader was screaming into a megaphone that the violent three were not a part of their group.
I know what you are talking about, but there have been so many police infiltrators of protests since then, that it’s hard to recall the specific instance. It predates george floyd, and I think it was at the protest for Michael Brown when the police left him dying in the street for over an hour before even attempting to render aid, even stopping EMTs from attending him. It was one of the first big BLM protests that I remember.
“Caterpillar D9 armored bulldozers have repeatedly been used by the Israel Defense Forces to bulldoze Palestinian homes, drag and crush Palestinians, and destroy cultural heritage sites.”
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