NYT: Putin open to ceasefire if Russia keeps occupied territories

Putin's sought ceasefire would mean Russia would keep the territories it illegally occupies in Ukraine, where the population is subject to abductions and summary executions. Ukraine laid out its 10-point "peace formula" in November 2022. One of the key points as a precondition for starting peace talks is the full withdrawal of Russian troops from Ukrainian territory.

Squizzy,

This is bullshit meant to exhaust other leaders, it shows Putin who is open to a peace deal and helps keep the talking point open.

Fact is Russia failed in their offensive also, are going to see half a million dead most likely and after 9 years they occupy less than 20% of the country.

Fuck Russia, appeasement fails.

athos77,

Based on Russia's history these last few decades, they simply want time to peacefully digest their current bite before heading back to the table for more.

theodewere,
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he needs a break so he can rebuild his hobbled military, before the next invasion

Rocketpoweredgorilla,
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“If you let us win we will stop shooting at you.”(At least until we want more of your land.)

That man has been taking some big rips off his golden crack pipe.

HubertManne,
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Lets compromise. You give me everything I want and in return I stop trying to take it by force.

itsnotits,

Let’s* compromise.

Bridger,

temporarily stop

HubertManne,
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oh of course, of course.

fluxion,

“Then I’ll come back for more later just like the first couple times.”

BustinJiber,

I’m open to ceasefire if Putin and entire cabinet/military leadership heads on pikes. Let’s find middle ground.

Astrealix,
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“Putin is open to winning the war”. No shit.

Vilian,

eat a bullet already

UserMeNever,

No.

Jaysyn, (edited )
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I have a better idea, we'll give Ukraine the $300 billion you stupidly didn't remove from our financial system & then well let them buy our weapons with it, to kill your poorly trained cannon fodder. This will continue until your demographics strangle you to death.

Masterblaster,

the people in those territories should decide.

Squizzy,

Fuck you, we should shoot up your house then put our friends in there and then I’ll take poll about who owns the house. You coward.

Masterblaster,

there were separatists there before russia invaded.

snooggums,
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The separatists were Russian plants dipshit.

Masterblaster,

ok. you're right. i remembered reading about them before the invasion and though there was a genuine percentage of the people that wanted to go back to mother russia.

snooggums,
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You fell for Russian propaganda.

Which isn't inherently bad. The people who make it do it for a living and are pretty god at lying.

theodewere,
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you should go ask them

Sylver,

No, because that would involve Russia leaving before the vote. Russia won’t do that because they don’t want to leave. Therefore, any vote will be conducted under Russian occupation. Which will obviously result in 100% pro Russia, considering they can’t even do presidential elections without rigging them to the extreme.

MataVatnik,
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That would only work if Russia withdraws and all of the refugees that were forced to leave are repatriated.

uphillbothways,
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Sounds like he knows he's losing, Russia's overseas assets are about to be seized and he has nothing left to bargain with. Time to find out, dumbfuck.

Jaysyn,
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He just realized that no matter who wins the US Presidency in 2025 or what percentage of the he has in his back pocket, he's not getting that $300 billion back, ever.

LeftToPonder,
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@Jaysyn @lusterko @uphillbothways

Good news if true. Link?

uphillbothways,
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LeftToPonder,
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@uphillbothways @lusterko @Jaysyn

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