The reply to that tweet makes a lot of sense and it’s been around for a while. Why doesn’t this change more people’s minds? It changed mine the first time I saw it.
Classism!? How can you be classist against your own class.
I have a shit job that pays shit all but its better than your equally shit job that pays an equally shit wage…
Wtf is wrong with people?
Ita like theres a big turd and everyone just wants to be able to touch the turd but some people are touching a bit of the turd thats higher up the turd, some are touching the highest bit of the turd thats almost touching rhe ceiling. Those touching the top of the turd think they are better than those touching the bottom. And those touching the middle think they are better than those touching the bottom and want to be the ones touching the top. Those at the bottom resent the others and wish they could touch any part of the turd that wasnt at the bottom and everyone fights each other to climb the turd.
Meanwhile amazon is wiping that turd off their shoe.
They think of themselves as middle class and burger flippers as lower class.
It’s crazy but they don’t see working class vs. capitalist class.
But yeah, a lot of it turned out to be about prestige. If the burger flipper makes as much as me then I’m no better than them. I.e. I can’t keep telling myself well at least I’m not at the bottom.
Because most people have the notion that the money Bezos makes is deserved. Society has been conditioned into believing that the value of their labor is set by the capital owner(s) and the owner is entitled to as much profits as they desire because they’re the owner. It’s a huge undertaking to question societal norms and reject the capitalist value of labor. It’s especially daunting when the opposing ideas have been presented as blasphemous and condensed under the umbrella term of “Socialism”, which itself has been demonized into an evil ideology that is fully incompatible with democracy and freedom.
Isn’t this the american way? as long as someone is doing worse, then you’re doing better? If a guyu fliping burgers makes more than you, go flip burgers!
Good, not really, efficient, hell yeah. And efficient is what makes money and thus companies should really be interested in experienced workers, no matter how you call that state.
If McDonalds didn’t care about effectiveness they wouldn’t be a household name, let alone an international corporation. People talk down about fast food, but it isn’t their business strategies that are bad.
I think the problem is that people don’t get paid enough to care anymore. Not even the managers. There’s too much wealth hoarding at the top in the US.
All labour is skilled labor. Unskilled labour was created by capitalists as a flimsy justification for paying people unlivable wages. ANY labour deserves a livable wage. Needing a second job is an injustice.
Now that being said, packing boxes for Amazon is 100% unskilled labour. A machine spits out the box template sheet with creases where the cardboard sheet should be folded to turn it into a box within seconds. Another machine prints the receipt that goes inside, and Another machine spits out an appropriate amount of packing to make sure the product stays in place inside the box. Another machine spits out a calculated amount of tape. Another machine spits out the info sticker that needs to be stuck on the outside. Does this need a lot of skill or training? I don’t think so, no.
I mean, isn’t it? There’s a reason we have TV shows where we record the CEO fucking up doing the “least skilled” jobs in their organization. It’s easy to film because there’s always another dumbass CEO who doesn’t know what they’re in for.
I work a job where I get to interact with everyone else’s jobs, and I haven’t run into a single one that I could confidently call “unskilled”.
@BarterClub That person should be mad that Amazon pays so little, not that another worker gets the same as them. This is one of the huge problems in the U.S., the lack of worker solidarity.
Amazon CAN pay more for example, but chooses not to, so Bezos, etc. can make more money for themselves.
As a former warehouse worker and shipping clerk, it is 100% unskilled labor. We would sometimes hire temp workers for really busy periods, and it would take about 30 minutes to train them.
Yeah, and as someone who works in QA for a carrier repacking some of those boxes I can tell. Shippers really don’t seem to care that their packages don’t even make it to the shipping phase, let alone through our damn building.
That’s the big lie the right wants you to believe; there’s no such thing as unskilled labor. You have to learn every job you start. Flipping burgers, packing boxes, cleaning, washing dishes, etc all have a learning curve. There is no job you can walk in off the street and start doing without previous knowledge.
This whole living wage thing is starting to sound communist. Maybe instead we’d better skip the fuss and just give everyone the food, shelter, clothing, and base amenities needed to survive as a fundamental human right, and not worry about payment. That’ll show those fucking lefties all obsessed with minimum wage increases!
Yeah, why the heck would packing boxes be more skilled than cooking? I view them pretty comparable in my mind. Though cooking is one where if you do it wrong, people can get sick or die.
And with all due respect to Amazon employees, I’ve seen firsthand the packaging Amazon does. They love to use hilariously oversized boxes for a single item and also love to ship multiple items I bought in separate boxes despite them being shipped and arriving at the same time. They’re not exactly master packagers.
I think he meant unskilled labor but doesn’t know it. Mindless labor. Still labor. And nobody deserves 150k/m off the backs of unskilled labor, that’s just slave wages with inflation.
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