Advice for now settled new Lemmy users.

Whether you are a Reddit refugee (I am one) or just randomly stumbled upon Lemmy and decided to join lemmy.world, welcome to the Fediverse.

If you have been here for long enough and settled in and now finally feel comfortable with Lemmy, I highly advice you to move to smaller instances. I just newly left Lemmy.world to join Lemm.ee.

We need to capitalize on the decentralized nature of the Fediverse and Lemmy instead of having everyone joining one instance. This will benefit the admins of Lemmy.world a lot as they would not have to deal with such a high amount of users. It also leaves room for new users to join and have a good experience rather than an experience filled with server outages where they will give up on Lemmy.

infamousbelgian,

Even decided to run my own instance! Power to the people!

Jokes aside, my server can handle 10 or so more people. So if someone is looking for a new home… waste-of.space.

Valmond,

Hello fellow self hoster!

Did you get email to work :-D ?

What’s your hardware?

Cheers!

infamousbelgian,

Hello there!

I’m running Lemmy via Lemmy-easy-deploy on Hetzner (so self-hosted as in: via a provider). E-mail is working via smtp2go and is indeed active :)

pineapplelover,

There are these instance migration tools you can use to get things over to your new account.

GUI: github.com/CMahaff/lasim

CLI: github.com/wescode/lemmy_migrate

Sauce: lemmy.eus/post/198402

MudSkipperKisser,

Is lemmy.world down for anyone else right now? I can’t log in through the site or through Memmy. Sorry op for going a bit off topic!

BarbecueCowboy,

Not just you, giving me an error message indicating that traffic is being blocked.

randomguy2323,

Good advice or also just host your own instance will be a great way and its very simple to do that I feel anyone with some technical knowledge can do it by using Yunohost.

  1. Buy a domain using namecheap or cloudfare.
  2. Rent a VPS on Linode, Vultr , Digital Ocean or Hetzner
  3. Install Yunohost from the official website and be sure to install Debian 11 and not Ubuntu thats the one recommended by Yunohost developers.
  4. Once Yunohost is installed , set it up , add your domain , add a DNS record to point to the the server public IP.
  5. Now just installed Lemmy app from the Yunohost app store and thats it now you have your own lemmy instance.
falseteefs,

wasn’t yunohost using an older version of Lemmy?

randomguy2323,

Its not always on the latest but its being really stable for me. I think they tested really throughly so thats why the updates are delayed but it just works.

AcornCarnage,
@AcornCarnage@lemmy.world avatar

Thanks for this! I just picked up a RPi4 and have been kicking it around trying to host a few applications and I’m just about to re-flash and start fresh. I’ll give Yunohost a shot tonight!

MarsAgainstVenus,
@MarsAgainstVenus@fedimav.win avatar

My steps were:

  1. Sign up for free Google cloud VM instance
  2. Buy a $3 domain name from Cloudflare
  3. Install with Lemmy-Easy-Deploy
  4. Change Cloudflare to “Strict”
  5. Log in
randomguy2323,

What is a $3 domain? I really wanted to buy one like that cheap. Why change cloudfare to strict?

MarsAgainstVenus, (edited )
@MarsAgainstVenus@fedimav.win avatar

Honestly, I don’t even know. It was in the advanced settings on Lemmy-Easy-Deploy and I missed it and spent like 2 hours troubleshooting until I saw that, lol.

.win is a $3 domains on Cloudflare and shouldn’t have issues of being revoked (like .ml is going through and others could potentially face).

randomguy2323,

Oh yeah I just read about cloudfare strict but I think thats only if you proxied the request through cloudfare servers , if you just point the domain to the server I dont think you need to do that.

MarsAgainstVenus,
@MarsAgainstVenus@fedimav.win avatar

I bought the domain through Cloudflare and when setting the CNAME and A records it automatically proxied them so I didn’t even think about it at the time.

randomguy2323,

Yeah that is how it usually works. Well thank you for the info its been really helpful

Fizz,
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

We got almost 20,000 instances I don’t think we need to push people to self hosting unless that’s something they specifically enjoy.

1984,
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

No its 1376 instances and about 28000+ communities I believe.

lemmyverse.net/?order=active

Fizz,
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

Thanks for correcting me. I must have gotten confused between the Instances and communities.

waterbogan,

Lemmy.world’s issues at present are due to DDOS attacks, not high user count

morphballganon,

And joining another instance is a great way to continue browsing through those attacks.

Tag365,
@Tag365@lemmy.world avatar

What about the instances I created on Lemmy.world? Will I be able to moderate them from other instances?

neutron,

You mean communities?

Tag365,
@Tag365@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve created the communities on Lemmy.world already, can I add moderation permissions to another account on another instance or am I required to moderate Lemmy.world communities/forums on Lemmy.world?

Madbrad200,
@Madbrad200@lemmy.world avatar

you can mod users from other instances

Tag365,
@Tag365@lemmy.world avatar

So that means I can add moderator permissions to users on other instances?

Madbrad200,
@Madbrad200@lemmy.world avatar

Yes

Serpardum,

I get irritated when browsing and a message is on another server and it asks me to log in again. Starting to make me mad.

poplargrove,

Im new, what do you mean by message being on another server? Do you mean a post?

Serpardum,

Yes

neutron, (edited )

Suppose someone sent you a lemmy link like this: lemmy.example.com/post/12345.

Now, you have an account on another instance called lemmy.test, also logged in and want to comment. But opening the original link lemmy.example.com/post/12345 still treats you as being unlogged, because it looks logins from lemmy.example.com, not lemmy.test or any other federated instances.

The solution, for now, is to use the search* function from your instance (lemmy.test) by pasting the original link (lemmy.example.com/post/12345). That gives you a URL that’s compatible with your login inside your own instance: lemmy.test/post/98765.

You can do this (or rather, have to do this) with communities or user links too.

I heard there are browser extensions doing this automatically, but haven’t tried. Mobile apps should have better support.

  • Edit: I remember being able to do this but now its not working. Perhaps something changed? I recommend using browser extensions or mobile apps that should take care of this automatically.

Edit 2: I realized how to obtain the actual working link.

Spzi,

there are browser extensions doing this automatically

I don’t think that’s technically possible, or it would require a substantial effort. Comments and posts are stored with an instance-specific ID. There is no nice way to determine if this ID matches an ID on another instance.

I would be very happy to learn I’m wrong on this one. So if anyone knows a solution, please let me know.

kate,

This is the one I’ve seen github.com/cynber/lemmy-instance-assistant

poplargrove,

Thanks for the detailed reply :)

topinambour_rex,
@topinambour_rex@lemmy.world avatar

I joined a local instance of mastodonte. I had days without being able to access my stuff, and finally recreated an account on the main mastodonte instance. So this time I directly picked a large instance.

astral_avocado,

I had similar issues, I joined a small Mastodon instance and for some reason couldn’t see comments or amounts of boosts. I guess it was just misconfigured

samokosik,
@samokosik@lemmy.world avatar

Same here. My main account is on lemmynsfw and it’s down atm :/

Vub,

It is the strength and the weakness of it all.

On Mastodon I did exactly this. A month later the small server closed and I had to start over from scratch.

madcaesar,

I’m not sure I understand. If I joined lemmy.world and subbed to stuff I like that has enough users to be interesting you’re saying, unsubscribe from those and join a different one with less users? I don’t know how that’s supposed to work?

Or are you saying join a different sever, log in there, and then pull the content from lemmy.world? That somehow helps with the load?

tron,

Lemmy is decentralized but completely connected together. I am on lemm.ee but I can still subscribe and comment to Lemmy.world or any number of other communities. The website you type in to visit Lemmy doesn’t matter. All Lemmy instances go to the same place. OP is arguing that a large centralized instance is bad which I don’t think anybody can disagree with. Lemmy.world has been down like every day. Tons of stability/DDOS issues but that only affects communities/users localized on that instance. Problem is that’s like half of the active Lemmy users right now.

madcaesar,

Right but that doesn’t answer my question, is he literally just suggesting people go somewhere else?

ravsii,

To move somewhere else doesn’t mean to lose your subscriptions in the context of lemmy. What he means is if your main account on lemmy.world and it’s down, you won’t be able to (temporarily) access both your account(=your subs) and lemmy.world’s communities, while if your account on smaller (more stable) instance, it would only affect you by losing access to lemmy.world’s communities, but other subbed communities would still work/appear in your feed.

Hope that explains it.

madcaesar,

Ahhh gotchya thanks!

WhoRoger,
@WhoRoger@lemmy.world avatar

One problem I foresee with smaller instances is discovery. As we know, if someone creates a new community somewhere else, your instance will onlyrecognise it once someone searches for it.

On a large instance like lemmy.world, there’s a good chance that someone else did, and you can stumble upon it by browsing /all. On a smaller instance this may not happen unless it’s set up to discover and thus mirror every community everywhere.

DosDude,
@DosDude@retrolemmy.com avatar

That’s why I populated /all with Lemmy Subscriber Bot

Blaze,
@Blaze@sopuli.xyz avatar

Interesting!

astral_avocado,

There’s a script for instance operators to run to fix that but I don’t have the link on me

30mag,

Is there a good way to choose a smaller instance?

Blaze,
@Blaze@sopuli.xyz avatar

Have a look at my other comments in the thread

wheeldawg,

That’s exactly what I thought when I signed up. Well not in those terms because I didn’t know much vocabulary for it then. But in general I like underdogs, so I went with a smaller one. I have no idea how big any of them actually are, but I know the big 2, and a handful of other common ones.

Blaze,
@Blaze@sopuli.xyz avatar

lemmy.fediverse.observer/list

Use 1m column for monthly active users

wheeldawg,

Don’t see a 1m column, but the users count column gave me some context.

Blaze,
@Blaze@sopuli.xyz avatar

You need to use “All columns”

Mookulator,

I really want to see a data viz of whether/how much users are spreading out. Anyone got the data on user counts over time by instance?

Blaze,
@Blaze@sopuli.xyz avatar

lemmy.fediverse.observer/list

Use 1m column for monthly active users

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