You didn’t say, “can’t be”, thats why I said it’s like you said that.
We didnt call it, “incel” 100 years ago when someone acted like an incel. If someone was making jokes and promoting a mindset at the time that would now be labeled “incel”, then we can retroactively say the ideology they promoted fits our current label.
I am in the same conversation, and I hear what you’re saying. I don’t think you sincerely understood what I was saying the first time.