So it’s chill to fuck up their flag but when yours gets messed with it’s an act against all inclusivity? I’m noticing some inhale double standards, Darcy. Maybe we just don’t fuck with other people’s shit and let them express their views, shitty or otherwise, without vandalism. That thing baked into the foundation of American discourse? Perhaps?
Only a certain type of person will put that sticker on their car. If you put that sticker on your car, you’re likely the type of person that usually doesn’t take kindly to having your property vandalized with rainbow flags.
He’s coloring in a sticker. Nobody is going to investigate this, nobody is going to prosecute, and if the owner of that sticker is such a snowflake they need to get angry over it, then they shouldn’t be part of a police force and they don’t belong in a civilized society.
While I agree there shouldn’t be any significant fallout from this, people are crazy now and have overblown reactions to things. When driving, I have to be concerned about whether what I’m doing could lead to someone coming after me for it. If I’m by myself, I might risk it. When I have my family with me, I don’t do those things.
I’m just saying, it’s a sticker and shooting someone over it is ridiculous, but someone, somewhere would shoot you over this. I think us looking out for each other is a reasonable thing. I live in a truck-heavy area. Someone would shoot me for this. “Whatchu doin’ to muh truck?” and the shooting might start before I had time to answer.
Hell yeah looking out for each other is a reasonable thing. Actually in times like these, its quite common for any oppressed minority to organize. Living in fear of being shot at for petty reasons is batshit crazy.
Oh no… In that case you better not look into what kind of nasty stuff gets forcefully expelled into the surrounding atmosphere when you blow up a car (and everything that includes, such as the battery).
Damn you can really tell the difference between the sheltered people screaming about police being fascists from the people who have actually had to call the cops to resolve a shitty situation. Go for it Margret, color in those car stickers to bring down the fascists.
Holy fuck how old are you to be unironically saying “News Flash” to people? You are a prime example how both sides have the most moronic extremists who just disregard logic.
Advocating for police to be defunded/abolished is akin to advocating for Anarchy as there will be nobody to enforce laws. Following me so far? If you’re advocating for Anarchy you can’t in the same breath claim you also want reform because there’ll be nothing fucking left to reform, duncecap. Go sit in a dark room and think about how dogshit your takes are please. Repeat until not stupid.
Ah, well I guess we’ll just throw the implication out then since you didn’t state it directly.
We got into anecdotes pretty quick. The last time I called the police some psycho with a gun was brandishing it in a park and was promptly arrested. So which one of us wins?
“Everyone to the right of me is a right-winger”’ I’ve been voting blue since I was allowed to vote, I’m just not a fucking extremist that thinks we need anarchy and to burn down target to enact change.
Hey, I’m one of those people that have had to call the cops to resolve a shitty situation (someone actively breaking into my house), and guess what? They did absolutely fuck all other than come by 2 days later to take some notes.
But when I was homeless and tried to sleep somewhere safe from the rain they were very quick about forcibly removing me and threatening me with a trespass charge.
So fuck fascist cops and doubly fuck losers like you that only exist to link boots. You genuinely disgust me.
Oh yes. Coloring in a sticker. You really stuck it to “them”. Grow up. That’s vandalizing. It’s funny that the kind of people would do that are also going to resist if a cop sees them doing it and goes to (rightfully) arrest them. Then try to sue for police brutality and discrimination. Everyone hates the cops until they need them. Hate the bad apples, not the tree.
However you want to say it. Every group of people has shitty individuals in it. Treating all for the mistakes of a few is what I thought we were trying to get away from.
Yeah, it’s unfortunately politicized, I think that allowing it to be, means playing right into the hands of those who want to leverage it to support their agenda, though arguably anything that relates to people is politics in a way or another to be honest
I’m not sure how we “allowed” it to be politicized. The right just picked it up in their tireless crusade against anything different. At that point, the choice is either to ignore it or fight it. However, ignoring it would mean the rights of lots of people would be trampled.
It’s actually so sad that the country has armed dangerous paranoid psychopaths. Everyone not pro-gun has to thread carefully to avoid being executed by some asshole in a truck.
Not everyone who owns a gun and knows how to use it is necessarily pro-gun. Some people have them because they are reacting to living in a gun ridden country. We can’t get rid of them at the moment, so it’s not a bad idea to learn how to protect yourself in the meantime.
That being said, even gun owners have to tread carefully around certain types of people.
It’s equally sad that anyone thinks it’s OK to deface another person’s property.
Do you support free speech or not? Because it means you have to accept hearing speech you don’t like. Engaging in vandalism because you’re offended at another person’s speech is what they want you to do. Because the crime will be used to further remove your rights. Don’t stoop to their level.
Yeah not sure what the intended outcome of this even is. Are they supposed to see that and think, “oh wow, maybe it is better to support this group I hate, I’m convinced!”? It’s more likely to just get the next gay couple they see attacked with absolutely no benefit, other than some internet points for the person who made the video. Though most likely it will just confirm their bias that the people they hate are here and just want to fuck with them, so their desire to get rid of them feels more justified.
The important thing is that we cater to their bigotry because they might get violent. We should always do what violent people want at all times because they might get violent. We should never speak up or do anything that opposes them, because society must cater to terrorists.
It’s a fucking sticker. For the love of god pick your battles. Get nazi symbols taken down by appealing to local government, elect a local oversight committee to decide where police funding goes, stop just pushing for blind anarchy like it’s a solution. I mean hell, Virginia no longer has southern general statues not because of the graphitti a bunch of morons put on it but because the people in charge took cranes and removed them.
I’m begging you to do adult things not just blind anarchy.
“Terror campaign”? It’s the US gun culture. While it’s terrible and horrifying, it’s not really so much of a campaign as it is a… culture. And it’s not really a target group of people in this case because, while these folks are more likely to commit violence against marginalized groups, in this case it’s just gonna be “Who is fucking with my car? Pop pop”. Just because they are the type of person to commit hate crimes doesn’t mean that everything they do is a hate crime. Does that make sense?
I’m just not sure how to get this through to you. US gun culture is a disease that goes way beyond “terror campaign” - you minimize it by putting it like that. This is a wide systemic and cultural issue that isn’t going to be fixed by just refusing to … to not vandalize random stickers??? The rainbow edit is hilarious but don’t fucking act like you’re standing up against ISIS by doing it or bowing to them by not.
Yes. And that culture involves going and shooting a bunch of marginalised people regularly. Whether it’s in a shopping mall or in a gay nightclub.
These are acts of terror performed as part of a disorganised and decentralised campaign waged by the far right.
you minimize it by putting it like that
No I do not. I disagree with none of what you have said. Just because I didn’t right a short essay about it does not mean I minimise it. Have a conversation with someone and actually listen to what they believe before you soapbox by talking at them instead of with them.
Sure, stand up against bigotry, but know the risks and use caution. If you think that vandalizing a sticker, though humorous, is worth the risk, then by all means do so.
I’m not sure why you wanna give shit to the person who points out the risk though. Maybe you should direct more of that anger towards the terrorists and not the person saying to be careful of taunting terrorists for minimal gains?
Ultimately it is the individual’s decision what they want to stand up to. It’s not “catering to bigotry” to choose to avoid a single battle. That’s akin to putting the onus on marginalized groups to educate hegemonic groups when they demonstrate ignorance. It’s a powerful thing when it happens, but it is completely within one’s right to just keep to themselves and go home peacefully for the night.
I've been listening to Punk Rock Factory the last days and your title is one of my favourites. If not for that, I wouldn't have gotten that ref. And nice paint job on that flag 🏳️🌈
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