Sky_Lobster,

Yeah, but $200,000 for Trump feels like a joke. It should be more in line with his income to be meaningful.

Fredselfish,
@Fredselfish@lemmy.world avatar

To be honest it probably is just he continues to spew his is a billionaire so it should be a billion dollars see what happens. 200k is a joke.

Gatsby,
@Gatsby@discuss.online avatar

That was probably true before he became President but I doubt it is anymore. He spent his entire term lining his pockets with as much taxpayer money as possible… And that’s not even taking into account the fact that he’s been campaigning this entire time to fund his legal defense against the numerous criminal and civil cases against him.

Nougat,

And in Georgia, you only have to post 10%.

cerevant, (edited )

I keep seeing this, so I wanted to clear up some details:

  • Bail isn’t a penalty, it is an incentive to return for trial (to get your money back). Bail was waived for Trump in previous cases because not only is he constantly followed by Secret Service, he is a high profile person who won’t be able to hide for long anywhere in the world.
  • Bail is typically a tenth (or less) of what Trump was given for even some violent felonies.
  • You must pay the entire amount to be released on bail, unless you get a bail bond.
  • A bail bond is when a third party agrees to pay the bail amount if you do not show up for trial. The 10% frequently cited is a fee to the bail bondsman for taking this risk. You still have to provide some kind of collateral to the bondsman to cover the remainder of the bail amount.
  • You don’t get the 10% back. If you have the cash to cover bail, it makes sense to use it because then you can get it all back.

Trump getting a bail bond would be a public admission that he doesn’t have the cash. He’ll find the cash.

Nougat, (edited )

You must pay the entire amount to be released on bail, unless you get a bail bond.

Reporting I've seen is that in the jurisdiction which Trump is charged in Georgia, you only have to post 10% to the court. Presumably, if you then abscond, you are on the hook for the remainder.

EDIT: Reporting I have seen appears to be wrong; parent commenter appears to be correct:

https://fultoncountyga.gov/inside-fulton-county/fulton-county-departments/sheriff/law-enforcement/bond-administration-unit

Another edit:

Hmm. I'm looking at Eastman's jail record, and all of his charges say "Disposition: 10% bond." So I really don't know.

cerevant, (edited )

Yeah, I looked over the article and they say this, but I can’t find a single reference to that program outside of articles about Trump. Odd.

Even the article doesn’t say if the 10% is returned. Maybe the FC Sheriff has in-house bail bonding.

Nougat,

I saw your initial reply and looked into it, edited the above. I think you're right and the reporting is wrong. I've seen wrong reporting on other aspects of this situation, too, so this is not a surprise to me. That's why my initial reply was in reference to "reporting I've seen." I already had my doubts.

Enigma,

I think that’s most places.

elbarto777,

The parent poster is still technically correct.

thepianistfroggollum,

No they aren’t. The 10% is the fee you pay the bail bondsmen to put up the entire amount so you can get out of jail. The courts need the entire amount before they’ll let you go, but you don’t have to go through a bondsman.

kablammy,

Is the entire bond amount forfeited when the defendant doesn’t turn up, or is it returned if they are later caught? Like if Trump pays $20K to the bondsman, the bondsman posts the $200K to the court, and Trump runs - presumably the bondsman sends a bounty hunter after him (paid out of the $20K?) so when they hand Trump in the bondsman gets their $200K back (but now has less than $20K profit)?

Miasmal,

From the link:

The bond agreement, which also states Trump must not attempt to intimidate any potential witnesses, said that the former president can post bond as cash, commercial surety or through Fulton County's Jail 10 percent program, whereby Trump can pay 10 percent of the bail if agreed by the Fulton County Sheriff's office.

Is that the same thing? Is the county providing bond services?

thepianistfroggollum,

Yeah, the county is providing the bond services, but there’s been some doubt about that excerpt since that information is apparently only found in the news articles about Trump.

cerevant,

Not clear. I searched and cannot find any reference to this program. I’m going to guess they do bonds in-house, and this is the standard fee. Otherwise it would undermine the bail set by the judge.

sab,
sab avatar

Well, judging by his tax returns his income isn't much to brag about.

Astroturfed,

Dude has millions of runes donating to his campaign/defense fund now. Campaign finance was already a corrupt joke in this country, but he’s taken it to a new level.

NotYourSocialWorker,

Sure, but all his money goes to his lawyers. Or maybe not. Only one I know who’s actually gotten paid by Trump is Stormy Daniels.

WarmSoda,

Exactly. If he wasn’t rich before he is now just from his campaign funds.

And from charging the SS for room and board.

nilloc,

I don’t think he handed out those state secrets for free either. They at least paid for rooms in his hotel.

Cobrachickenwing,

We aren’t even sure those are real as well. It’s why NY was prosecuting him for tax fraud.

onionbaggage,

We’re talking about a dude that would cash a check for 13 cents tho. Soo…

phoenixz,

Meh. Random lawyer saying things.

Then again, this is trump and you know he’s dumb as a rock and always ready to put up a show.

Then again, please please don’t show up. I want to watch a SWAT team kick in his door and drag him out screaming “I thought this was America! MAGAFLGHH” and then a cop puts a knee in his neck. I know, will never happen, bit wouldn’t that be fun for a change

maniacal_gaff,

"Some words"

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Cobrachickenwing,

Trump still has his passport. He is flying out to Saudi Arabia or israel where the US can’t touch him.

sab,
sab avatar

You might need to update your list of countries outside of the US' sphere of influence - those are both close allies. :)

Crashumbc,

Yes and no

Close allies? Yes

Able and willing to tell the US to fuck off if they feel like it? Also yes.

Both also have a lot of power/sway over the US.

sab,
sab avatar

Sure - but I doubt they'd use that to protect trump's sorry ass. :)

DragonTypeWyvern,

Yeah, they’re not going to protect a fleeing fugitive who isn’t useful to them anymore.

Man is going to Russia for sure.

iHUNTcriminals,

When’s he going to do something that allows the cops to just shoot him?

joel_feila,
@joel_feila@lemmy.world avatar

when he turns black

glitch1985,

Wrong color.

jatone,

havent you heard orange is the new black.

iHUNTcriminals,

🔥

morphballganon,
DragonTypeWyvern,

You know a racist made that meme, right?

There’s a reason one of the words is not like the others.

TokenBoomer,

We got a runner…

ooklamok,

He will just to be a martyr and bask in it.

Plus the mug shot will be plastered all over his campaign as a badge of pride and people will buy tons of merch with it.

CADmonkey,

Going to try and make more trump nft’s?

Piecemakers3Dprints,
@Piecemakers3Dprints@lemmy.world avatar

I might’ve missed something, but I’m pretty sure NFTs can’t own things.

CADmonkey,

Oh no, I was saying he would turn his mugshot into an NFT.

Piecemakers3Dprints,
@Piecemakers3Dprints@lemmy.world avatar

It was the possessive apostrophe.

CADmonkey,

I blame autocorrect

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  • randon31415,

    More like: Trump violates bond condition, new bond set, Trump appeals new bond saying that conditions violate his free speech, all lawyers working for him ask for a delay in other trials because of this appeal.

    PsychedSy,

    They shouldn’t have even set one. It’s just gonna make his base donate.

    blue_zephyr,

    I hope he doesn’t. He’ll bury himself into a mountain of new trouble. But even he is not that stupid.

    Or maybe he’ll flee to Russia. Which is fine for me too, let him expose himself as a traitor and eliminate the possibility of holding office again.

    SloppyPuppy,

    Careful he might be the first president working remotely. From russia.

    mcqtom,

    I’m curious what makes you think he’s not that stupid.

    PizzasDontWearCapes,

    His ego is greater than his stupidity. Fleeing will be an admission of losing - that would break him mentally

    extant,

    I don’t think we’re up to the Russian vacation yet, not until we get closer to sentencing.

    eran_morad,

    CIA and USSS would never let him flee to russia.

    Isthisreddit,

    They wouldn’t stop him. More than Half of them would probably help him do what he wants to do

    PizzasDontWearCapes,

    But would his secret service allies really be willing to move to Russia with him?

    Isthisreddit,

    Would an ally be willing to go to prison for decades? A reasonable person would say of course not, but here we are. If someone is an ally of Trump’s, they clearly left reality long ago

    Pratai,

    Oh he’s that stupid.

    gowan,

    He can’t the USSS agents protecting him will not let him leave

    Raiderkev,

    The same secret service that accidentally deleted all their texts from Jan 6?

    OhStopYellingAtMe,
    @OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world avatar

    Lock. Him. Up.

    Steeve,

    Does it feel like the news is all opinion pieces these days? All I see is “someone said something on Twitter” lately.

    StarServal,
    StarServal avatar

    What? You don’t want to hear about the latest thing Elon Musk said/did on/with Twitter?

    thepianistfroggollum,

    If I did I’d go back to /r/technology

    StarServal,
    StarServal avatar

    But then how will you know that Elon Musk started charging per vowel?

    SheeEttin,

    This is the politics community, not news, so opinion pieces are fair game.

    But yeah, even so, I hate how even “news” articles are “elon posted something on twitter”.

    itsJoelle,

    I suspect it’s a function of engagement. Trump’s edictments are hot, so some will click on anything vaguely related to it. Even reporting on chirping does the trick since people want more of the “story” even though it’s not a development.

    SheeEttin,

    Sure, but that doesn’t mean we have to perpetuate it.

    greendakota99,

    Politics and sports journalism.

    mookulator,

    Try reading a reputable news outlet instead of social media

    RecursiveParadox,
    @RecursiveParadox@lemmy.world avatar

    Very few left my friend, very few.

    PrinceWith999Enemies,

    The steep decline in money available to publishers means that they’re going to cut reporting in favor of paying an intern to copy and paste off of twitter. You end up with twenty different publications summarizing the same AP article with one paragraph, the. a dozen hot takes on twitter by people you’ve never heard of.

    And we’re reaching the point where they don’t even need the intern to do it.

    Eldritch,

    It’s the 24-hour news cycle and the drive for constant content. Nothing of value just content. They’ll tell you the same thing thousands of times. Over and over again drilling it into you. Reporting on he said she said inanity. In Pursuit of an agenda.

    theodewere, (edited )
    theodewere avatar

    "... something of an indignity that he has to post something"

    LAWL.. that a former PRESIDENT has to post BOND because he's considered at risk of fleeing the REPUBLIC.. yeah, something of an indignity.. that's exactly what Washington would have said..

    on racketeering charges no less.. while still in office.. against a state..

    if you trusted him your head is on upside down AND backwards.. get a friend or a priest to knock it off for you, so you can put it back on straight..

    Neato,
    Neato avatar

    U.S. Marshalls to U.S. Secret Service:

    nbailey,
    @nbailey@lemmy.ca avatar

    Isn’t that the entire point of pre-trial detention?

    dhork,

    Trump seems to be the type of petty person to bring the bail in pennies.

    elbarto777,

    Which is illegal in certain instances, if you’re doing it for the sake of creating a nuisance. Definitely in line with what he does.

    thepianistfroggollum,

    That would require more thinking than he’s capable of.

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