Personally, I think we should move the conversation there since posting here feels like you’re trying to get more eyeballs on this stuff.
I’m indifferent. Not trying to grab eyeballs, just trying to find different angles on the topic. Anyone who claims it was debunked is interesting because they may have more knowledge than I (i.e. you and you podcasts). Post a thread and I’ll follow.
I find this stuff dangerous, and it’s usually best discussed in a more focused group.
We are discussing 8 year old emails and Instagram posts. Not planning an insurrection.
It contains the best evidence I’ve heard for Pizzagate.
The link I clicked quickly through was making fun of some Alex Jones contributors ordering pizza.
The fact that an idea shows no signs of dying out is not going to get me to believe it.
Agreed. My point was that continued claims of debunking don’t reduce interest in the subject.
Virginia Giuffre was a victim who came forward.
Only as a middle aged woman. Kids in the Instagram photos would now barely be over 10. You can’t use their silence as evidence.
What are you doing bringing Epstein into this?
I’m showing that sex trafficked people don’t often come forward. In Epstein’s case it took 20+ years.
any pundit that “bunks” pizzagate talking-points that also said anything about Epstein
Sorry. Not a claim or a point I’m defending.
There are no victims in pizzagate.
We have photos of some from Instagram.
That is your best evidence so far.
No, the. Best evidence is the steemit summary above. That made a LOT of people suspicious.
How else do you reach the kind of people who believe things based whatever they hear from pundits claiming to have secret knowledge?
The conspiracy crowd were not the target audience. You certainly don’t go through Colbert. It was pure Streisand effect.
That’s very vague and spooky. Does it have a meaning?
It was my attempt at explaining the massive national media campaign supporting a pizza shop owner against apparently ridiculous allegations. Protesting too much.
Wow. Bold of you to bring up another known pedophile.
Because he was republican and mentioned in friendly terms by Podesta. I’m dismissing the “right wing” tag that gets attached to pizzagate. Often via Qanon.
And qanon stoking fires is another conspiracy point I will simply not engage with. Qanon is too unfounded for me.
I think that is fair. Qanon came later. It should be separate but people often confuse the two.
That investigation went as far as it could before violating the rights of a private business owner
No. There was no investigation (sorry, no supporting evidence). “Private business owner” has nothing to do with suggestive Instagram posts involving children.
Where people do not engage with these fear-mongers who actually proclaim that Democrats drink the blood of babies.
Ah. So you aren’t saying this couldn’t happen. Just that you’d ignore anyone who pointed out if it was happening.
Why introduce "drink the blood of babies. "? Irrelevant hyperbole adds nothing.
I feel I’m being quoted out of context.
Sorry, not my goal. Just trying to make reading easier. Misquoting is pointless here.
It sounds like you are bragging about making peoples lives miserable based on nothing.
I’ve had no interaction with either.
You mentioned persecution and they have both been on the receiving end. However, if they had been investigated by law enforcement, or publicly addressed their accusations then there would be no persecution (or at least much less).
I assume you are in the debunked camp. Can I ask what makes you so sure there was nothing suspicious happening?