newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

LinkOpensChest_wav, 10 months ago

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melroy, 10 months ago

@LinkOpensChest_wav
@slackmaster Don't use Google anymore :)

skulblaka, 10 months ago

At first I didn't realize that was the guy's username and had a excellent mental image of Link opening a chest and da na na naaaaaa holding up a duck

BasicTraveler, 10 months ago (edited 10 months ago)

You can reach out to the EFF. They took an interest in youtube-dl. However you have a major hurdle to overcome:

RIAA argues that since youtube-dl could be used to download music owned by RIAA-member labels, no one should be able to use the tool, even for completely lawful purposes.

This is an egregious abuse of the notice-and-takedown system, which is intended to resolve disputes over allegedly infringing material online. Again, youtube-dl doesn’t use RIAA-member labels’ music in any way. The makers of youtube-dl simply shared information with the public about how to perform a certain task—one with many completely lawful applications.

--https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/11/riaa-abuses-dmca-take-down-popular-tool-downloading-online-video

IANAL but probably shouldn't have video on the site showing it downloading copyrighted music. I think that's the crux here.

https://www.eff.org/about/contact

Good luck, but I think you kinda shot yourself in the foot.

EDIT: if you read the complaint, it's not for hosting content, it's Anticircumvention. 17 U.S.C. Sec. 1201 (a)(2)

(2) No person shall manufacture, import, offer to the public, provide, or otherwise traffic in any technology, product, service, device, component, or part thereof, that—

(A) is primarily designed or produced for the purpose of circumventing a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title;

(B) has only limited commercially significant purpose or use other than to circumvent a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title; or

(C) is marketed by that person or another acting in concert with that person with that person’s knowledge for use in circumventing a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title.

CapgrasDelusion, 10 months ago (edited 10 months ago)

probably shouldn't have video on the site showing it downloading copyrighted music

This is an extremely good point. Show it downloading something in the public domain if anything at all. Not Selina Gomez "official." Same as what Kodi had to do with add-ons. Even if it can be used to infringe, separate the main instance from that. It's not necessary to win the DMCA fight, but it's an unnecessary target.

taurentipper, 10 months ago

I thought the DMCA was used for people or organizations that uploaded or shared infringing material? Isn't Newpipe just playing whats freely available on youtube/peertube/soundcloud etc? I could be wrong of course but this seems like an abuse, good luck I hope you can fight this!

lka1988, 10 months ago

That’s totally not a massive conflict of interest

EvilMonkeySlayer, 10 months ago

I didn't even know this existed. As a result I've just installed it on my phone. Great way to Streisand effect it I guess.

hiyaaaaa23, 10 months ago

I’m rooting for ya

Gutotito, 10 months ago

Do not DMCA takedown requests require swearing an affidavit? If that's false, then it's perjury, isn't it?

speck, 10 months ago

Streisand effect. Now I'm gonna go look up what newpipe is

nakal, 10 months ago

Better: download F-Droid or Neo Store. You can install the app and many more from there directly.

speck, 10 months ago

Yup! On F-Droid for most of my apps nowadays

Dream_state, 10 months ago

Droidify is my favourite F-droid client :)

speck, 10 months ago

It's look like a skin for f-droid? Didn't know there was such a thing lol. Just been using it as-is

CreativeTensors, 10 months ago

With how things are going, who’s to say that a year from now google catching you running an ad-blocker at all won’t cause them to ban your entire google account?

skulblaka, 10 months ago

Because, frankly, my Google account is full of 17 years and counting of excellent user data. They have my past trends but if they expect to keep mining me for data in the future then they better let me keep using my adblockers. Go ahead, ban me, I'll call yer fuckin' bluff mate. I'll be off the grid faster than they can say "please deactivate ublock". I only still use Google because it's convenient and because I have so much of my life and history tied up in it, but every day that I use it I think about how I shouldn't. If they want to burn that bridge, it'll be highly effective and I'll never come back.

And I think a lot of people are in the same boat these days. Of course you'll always have your "normies", your simple majority who while they may hate the ads don't even know what an ad blocker is and will just put up with whatever Google does in order to get their youtubes. But if you piss off a nerd we have options. We'll build our own social network empire, with blackjack and hookers. We'll jump ship to a search engine that gives a damn about the user. We'll host our own email domains. We'll build newer, better ad blockers, that Google can't even detect.

If Google truly wants to fuck around like that they may well just find out, just like reddit is doing.

Blazze, 10 months ago

This should be a pretty cut and dry false takedown. Newpipe doesn't host any content.

bluGill, 10 months ago

The important part is DMCA is under penalty of perjury, so they nees to demand that be enforced.

deegeese, 10 months ago

I think in the 20 year history of the DMCA that has literally never happened.