ArcaneSlime

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ArcaneSlime,

I mean, if the snake can bind it’s mouth closed before getting bit it’s over, I could see it.

ArcaneSlime,

Lmao this isn’t even a joke, it’s probably reality for some coroners offices!

ArcaneSlime,

Of course, it’s illegal for an FFL to sell a handgun to anyone with an out of state license unless they ship it to an FFL in the person’s home state for the NICs check and to make sure it complies with local laws. As for rifles, while there is no federal requirement stating the same, you’d be very hard pressed to find an FFL that is going to sell one to a person with an IL license unless it goes through the same system, all FFLs especially in border states know IL laws and are obviously hesitant to run afoul of them, iirc there is actually a local IL statute prohibiting the buying of long guns out of state without sending them through an FFL (like federally for pistols but for IL specifically with the long guns too) in it’s own that the neighboring FFLs would get in trouble with the ATF for violating, not to mention FOID and standard capacity mag bans

ArcaneSlime,

Sure, but can you rob or kill a crip with a pack of Marlboro smooths? People will pay the tax especially to murder people either in disputes or self defense.

The only thing this could possibly do is make it so people are less likely to go to the range, instead saving ammo for when they need it, in turn making them less practiced and therefore less accurate, in turn making it more dangerous for bystanders in the case of armed defense.

Gangbangers don’t train at the range, mass shooters don’t need accuracy for “fish in a barrel” so to speak who can’t fire back and are often trapped, and someone murdering their wife or some shit can usually do it at point blank cannot miss range. This bill is not only pointless, it may be actively detrimental. It only serves as an attempt by the leading party to say “see we did something, vote for us again,” while (imo intentionally) not actually solving anything so they can keep running on the issue year after year.

Sure, it may make some future poor people say “well I’d love to get a gun to protect myself because I live in a bad neighborhood but I can’t afford it,” but is “no guns for poors, only rich whities” really a desirable outcome just because “anything that decreases the number of arms is good even if it really only decreases for the poors and POC?”

ArcaneSlime, (edited )

And I’m saying “they may have, but bullets are different than cigarettes.”

ArcaneSlime,

Well the rest of the thread is, the cigarettes you mentioned were previously mentioned in the context of being analogous to this tax. In the future it might be prudent to lead with a disclaimer like “well this actually doesn’t have anything to do with the topic at hand except for this one specific thing you said, and it’s very important we ignore all other context from the thread, however…”

ArcaneSlime,

Tbf, define “refuses.” Suppressors, SBS, SBR, 1932; Background Checks, 1968; Full auto ban, 1986; AWB, 1994-2004, expired, little to no measurable impact on crime.

And yet they push and push to get the AWB back despite the fact that those guns make up less than .01% of our gun deaths, why would I think that rounding down that .01% would be “enough” and they wouldn’t then progress to handguns which are demonstrably the highest contributing type of arms? Frankly there has been those compromises in the past and yet they continue to push already, it wouldn’t make sense for them to stop pushing for the 99.99% once they get the .01%, they just know the “well handguns for protection I understand but those assault weapons are automagical murder machines” crowd won’t go for it yet.

ArcaneSlime,

Did you know it’s already a felony to not report a stolen gun? If they track it down that far they’d be more than “questioned.”

ArcaneSlime,

Actually I’d argue that I am not the one confused, I’m replying to someone who was confused about the nature of the thread they posted in, which I only found out after they claimed that they were only being hyperspecific and I should have known that due to what I can only surmise is my supposed psychic ability.

In any case, good day. It seems we have no further business.

ArcaneSlime, (edited )

In most states, not just CA. And even most without a “duty to report” lets call it, can and will punish you if an unreported gun is used in a crime. Besides, not reporting a criminal stole your gun a good way to get falsely imprisoned for murder which usually people don’t want to do, so even without laws requiring one to do so or not specifically enumerating punishment for not reporting if it is used in a crime, it is still seen as a generally good idea to prevent said false convictions.

I didn’t downvote you, can’t answer for them.

ArcaneSlime,

You’d have to look into state laws and previous cases where a gun purchase being tied to some murder got someone convicted. I’m not going to hunt it down to prove it to you but you’re free to spend your time doing so.

ArcaneSlime,

Ehhh no thanks. States like NY and CA which publish a “steal guns from me” list with your name and address are not exactly privacy friendly. I mean, “what if the database got hacked,” but also what if CA and NY just publish them as public knowledge without the need to “hack,” because they do. Furthermore, there’s already 600,000,000 unregistered firearms in ~50% of the populations hands most of whom refuse to register, it’s not even effective enough to make a difference. And with that whole AWB thing, they can’t really take them all right now, but with a registry they could, and that’s why they push for it so hard. Those of us who see this writing on the wall are hesitant to give them the power they seek.

ArcaneSlime,

What I’m saying is “No I do not have an article that lays out state laws succinctly, you’d have to search the actual .gov pages for the laws themselves, and as I am not your paralegal and not getting paid for my work I am declining to do it.”

Or you could just do some thinkin’ and realize “Yeah if a gun that I did a NICs check on that got stolen shows up in a murder and I don’t have an alibi, I might be a suspect in said murder” isn’t actually that wild of a situation. If you can’t see how it could be likely though, like I said, you’re free to search yourself.

ArcaneSlime,

The source is there in the statutes laid out by the state, I’m unwilling to aggregate it for you, as I have a whole other job I’m doing that actually pays me. You are free to look em up yourself.

ArcaneSlime,

The probability that a gun is used in a murder is pretty low

Oh I thought we were talking about the US where guns are the leading weapon used in murder, my mistake.

ArcaneSlime,

At this point I’ve spent too much time telling you I don’t have time for that, so, sorry. Deal with it.

ArcaneSlime,

Oh definitely not, actually if you look at the math of how many guns there are in the country VS how many are used in murders it’s basically just a rounding error. That’s actually why it makes me laugh when people demonize all gun owners like they’re all just one day away from killing. Statistically that isn’t the case. Of course nobody made that claim, so “cool” I guess.

Still though, if they find a gun at the scene with a serial number and NICs says that Steve’s Pawn sold it and Steve’s Pawn’s paperwork says it was sold to Joe Smith, Joe better have a good alibi in most states or else he may find himself in court defending his innocence because “It was stolen and I never reported it” is a very shaky pretense for a defense, the DA could believe you, but it’s unlikely.

Or not, whatever, believe what you wish idgaf. I wouldn’t take “oh I live in X state so I don’t legally have to report stolen guns” to be a good idea myself but you’re free to make your own decisions regarding your stolen guns I guess. Personally I’d report it anyway to avoid future questions and hopefully recover my stolen property, but that’s just me, obviously you disagree since you’re so dead set against me on that.

Oh, unless of course you mean in cases where the gun isn’t found, in which case all this is moot because without the gun there’s no serial number to tie it to anyone anyway, it may as well be unreported. Of course they have to have the gun. Not sure why you are going on a tangent about “not all illegal guns are used to murder people,” because typically ones found at murder scenes were, and if it is tied to a NICs check you did and you haven’t reported it stolen, know what? Just come on back here and let us know how it went for ya.

ArcaneSlime,

Know what? I think I’ll do whatever the fuck I want. Keep telling me what to do, you can’t make me lol nanny nanny boo boo.

ArcaneSlime,

No.

ArcaneSlime,

Do you know any other words? You should get that duolingo app.

ArcaneSlime,

Shit I think I broke it.

ArcaneSlime,

Talk hella mad shit about Brazil.

?!? What year is it?! Did my experiment to time travel back to 2009 actually work?!

Despite polls, Biden aides insist Gaza campus protests will not hurt reelection bid (www.reuters.com)

WASHINGTON, May 18 (Reuters) - Several top White House aides say they are confident protests across U.S. college campuses against Israel’s offensive in Gaza will not translate into significantly fewer votes for Joe Biden in November’s election, despite polls showing many Democrats are deeply unhappy about the president’s...

ArcaneSlime,

Honestly idk what sounds crazier to me, that the counter protesters are democrats disguised as trump people because they have the most to gain from the protests being silenced, or that the counter protesters are actually right wing nazis in support of…ending the protests in order to benefit Joe Biden and literal Zionists because “libs bad.”

I just think it’s funny that really with the state of the world neither would come as a surprise, honestly.

ArcaneSlime,

“Best new series” on the other hand, not a tough call. It’s hands down Beneath The Trees Where Nobody Sees by Patrick Horvath!

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