PeepinGoodArgs

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Informal Logic—A Pragmatic Approach:

The fault of blind dogmatism, of only seeing one side of the argument as a position worth investigating, is among the most severe impediments or handicaps in reasonable dialogue.

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PeepinGoodArgs,

Damn. U.S. conservatives are at stage 6 or 7 with trans people.

PeepinGoodArgs,

Art is subjective too, but artistic genius is a thing (but takes longer to develop, I guess. I can’t recall any young artistic geniuses)

PeepinGoodArgs,

Yeah, but who is today’s Buddha?

PeepinGoodArgs,

Since you wrote this post, you probably have some idea of what a moral genius is supposed to be. Can you describe what makes a person a moral genius and maybe give an example?

I mean, that’s interesting in and of itself. The concept of a moral genius isn’t clear. Others have brought this up, too.

A genius is someone who generally displays some exemplary skill. Terrence Tao, for example, attended university-level mathematics courses when he was nine. Most people couldn’t have possibly have done what he did. In contrast, Pablo Picasso was also a genius, creating artistic masterpieces, among his many other talents. Many of his contemporaries didn’t achieve what he did.

So, at least we know that geniuses can be recognized as such at any point in their life, and it seems more about achieving a level of mastery or insight into their field or practice that others aren’t privy to, even other practitioners.

People keep saying morality is subjective, which is true, but so is art. Still, Picasso was recognized as genius. Still, there are widely recognized universal moral values, like don’t kill other people. So, I’m not sure moral subjectivity is sufficient to dismiss what I’m asking.

Other commenters have brought up various moral philosophers like Kant and St. Augustine. Different moral frameworks, both geniuses. Sure. The same commenter brought up Buddha, and I think that’s closer to what I’m after. Buddha attained “enlightenment” and then everybody and their god came to him for moral guidance.

I think it’s this beacon of guidance as a genius that really captures my concept of a moral genius. Like, if you’re a professional mathematician and you get stumped on a proof, you may turn to Terrence Tao to see what he thinks about resolving the apparent problem. Similarly, if you’re trying to understand some aspect of art that eludes you but you see in Picasso paintings, you might engage in-depth study of his artwork until you get what you’re trying to find.

But let’s say you’re widely understood to be at least a good person, then who do you turn to? Who is widely understood to be a morally superior person that exceeds even the normal best to which they turn? Such a person would fit my understanding of a moral genius.

And while children are often lauded for being innocent and pure, it’s like their untainted understanding of morality isn’t recognized as proper moral decision-making. In contrast, the Dalai Lama is often respected as spiritual leader, but I think that stems more from what the Dalai Lama is and the tradition around him rather than the inherent goodness of whoever is the Dalai Lama. The same goes for preachers/the Pope/etc. That might be unfair to discount them, though…idk.

PeepinGoodArgs,

Actually, that’s a good point! I brought it up in another comment, but there are mathematical geniuses, piano geniuses, scientific genius, etc. But everybody know and can agree on what math is, what a piano is and how difficult it is to play well, what science is and the long road to mastery of a sliver of human knowledge that entails.

But not with morality.

Personally, I think you’ve suggested an answer that satisfies me: people have no idea wtf morality or spirituality are. Plato and Aristotle once may have been able to point to someone and say, “So and so is more virtuous than us!” or “The king of a foreign nation is full of vice and worth less than coward who turns to bravery.” But it’s like modern American society cannot conceive of such a concept as moral superiority.

I mean, some people can, and then often go on to be significantly worse than normal people. They are often the definition of immoral. But, as a general rule, saying that you’re morally superior to others barely makes any sense and, even if it did, would demand an impossible type of proof.

PeepinGoodArgs,

So, LLMs aren’t suitable for brainstorming new directions at the frontier. That seems like a pretty specific limitation that is only applicable in a very small percentage of cases. Like, LLM brainstorming won’t be useful if you’re trying to improve LLMs in a new way unless that new way is what most people are already doing. But it’d still be useful to help a COO brainstorm how to improve operations since there are tried and true methods of operations management.

PeepinGoodArgs,

I feel like “Republican” is its own derogatory category now.

“Don’t be a Republican, care about your neighbor” or “Don’t be a Republican, check the facts” feel like completely reasonable things to say because Republicans have basically stereotyped themselves.

PeepinGoodArgs,

I knew they wanted to be slavers again. I called it from the beginning.

PeepinGoodArgs,

Especially the 5th circuit. That’s where Matthew Kacsmaryk punts the dumbest cases to Sam Alito and Clarence Thomas, who then shit all over the law.

PeepinGoodArgs, (edited )

This is the kind of book conservatives correctly identify as engendering hate for America. After reading this one, I saw the value of just burning it all down.

PeepinGoodArgs,

Republicans: Election integrity is when my preference wins.

PeepinGoodArgs,

Only after plants appeared on land some 458 million years ago

Wtf?! Really?!

PeepinGoodArgs,

It does and we know it, but it’s our only means of control, however minute, for the time being.

PeepinGoodArgs,

But what do you think could be the reason that has affected the cognitive abilities of the American population?

The enduring Republican attack on education and the shift to believing it’s vocational training rather than citizen development.

PeepinGoodArgs,

I had the 1000XM4 until recently and it was fantastic, too. My SO would often get mad at me for not paying attention when I was in the computer.

PeepinGoodArgs,

You’d think so…

PeepinGoodArgs,

When you see what humans can do, it really encourages a perspective that pushes against people that say humans can’t.

PeepinGoodArgs, (edited )

Not really because I’m not being serious. But at high levels of education that aren’t in business, it’s because education roots belief in the scientific method and scientific evidence. For the humanities, it teaches a more rigorous form of thinking based still based on evidence and logical thinking patterns.

The way modern conservatives think is very illogical. It feigns a sort of logic but it’s really easy to identify as anything but

PeepinGoodArgs,

I mean, yes, but what makes you think that?

PeepinGoodArgs,

Edit: Yes I do a bit of self-cringe when I reread that story.

Why? That’s actually a very good example.

PeepinGoodArgs,

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PeepinGoodArgs,

Eh, depends on who you ask. Personally, no, this isn’t masculine. People are standing up for what they believe, and more importantly, their resolve come a place of empathy. Merely standing up for what you believe doesn’t warrant much praise, imho, especially if your beliefs are demonstrably false.

PeepinGoodArgs,

Ha! You’re right. I didn’t mean it was open source. I did mean that it was available.

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