RoundSparrow

RoundSparrow, 10 months ago

Keep in mind with 0.18.3 there is a new “dead server” check that cuts off communication that won’t show up on the block list. There have been reports in !fediverse recently that this has caused some issues. notable posting: lemmy.ca/post/2626714

RoundSparrow, 10 months ago (edited 10 months ago)

!sdfasdf isn’t a community?

EDIT: we did it Lemmy!!! !sdfasdf

Me and my brother were talking to each other
About what makes a man a man
Was it brain or brawn, or the month you were born?
We just couldn’t understand

RoundSparrow, 10 months ago

The very moderator of !test

https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/224c1208-7202-45de-8f6f-f95ca9f1ae61.png

RoundSparrow, 10 months ago

sdfasdf

Wait… Did they CASH IN? Sell out?: Odorono?

https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/4c958e04-2b55-4187-834c-3ed7eb785b29.png

RoundSparrow, 10 months ago

!sdfasdf isn’t a community?

RoundSparrow, 10 months ago

Thank you for the code contributions!

RoundSparrow, 10 months ago (edited 10 months ago)

I’ve been informed that I’m not the only one that has been unable to see the contex

There is a now-closed issue on GitHub: github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ui/issues/1999#event-10…

https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/d4cf0784-8ddd-4dd0-af2c-ef980ed9cec8.png

“completed”, but main doesn’t compile, variable missing.

I have really had to do an attitude adjustment with this project regarding data integrity and testing. I’m made testing become my stable focus. I hope you are having a good weekend.

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Lemmy not showing context?

For the home-gamers, that means “comment” context. comment links.

FYI: lemmy.world has blocked standard Lemmy outside comment links this week with an error response that makes the user feel they did something wrong.

https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/945413ef-6301-4e89-94a5-a5dc4d8d1b32.png

RoundSparrow, 10 months ago

Up until now, social containers like groups, communities, or subreddits on all the largest social networks have existed as fundamentally separate locations on a single hierarchical level.

“Up until now”… Uh… no, Usenet… was the open standard for social media. Created in 1979. A foundation of the Internet. Just as much as e-mail was.

alt.tv.simpsons
alt.tv.futurama

RoundSparrow, 10 months ago

It was a big deal when we got an archive we could search of all content…

“The Deja News Research Service was an archive of messages posted to Usenet discussion groups, started in March 1995 by Steve Madere in Austin, Texas. Its powerful search engine capabilities won the service acclaim, generated controversy, and significantly changed the perceived nature of online discussion. This archive was acquired by Google in 2001.”

RoundSparrow, 10 months ago

Gentoo Linux agrees… the very root of the concept of “federated” comes from Usenet, which did not have a flat hashtag style group, a flat subreddit /r/name /c/name kbin magazine convention.

https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/222e6f7d-f02b-4eda-8e79-8d0cf0b5bda8.png

RoundSparrow, 10 months ago

Really, are you going to ignore what it says? The opening?

It implies a flat /c/a /c/b /r/a /r/b system “until now”? Or am I wrong?

Perhaps you aren’t faniliar with how under-utilizes naming dots matter in domain names?

smtp.chemistry.science.oranic.org has been in the Internet (Usenet) conventions for a VERY long time! Forgotten, burred in $$$$$$ wealth. “Windows”… Everywhere. Owning the words. TradeMarks.

RoundSparrow, 10 months ago

Storage was still pretty expensive, and there we transitions in computing from originally paper terminals to screen and people didn’t have a sense of long-term retention of personal messages (I guess many people probably felt that way about SMS messages on mobile). There also wasn’t really a way to look at a user’s “profile” like you have on Lemmy - to see everything you post in any topic - which a search-engine provided a way to search for your name across a time period.

RoundSparrow, 10 months ago

Show Context and links to comments in general are broken in 0.18.3 github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ui/issues/1999

RoundSparrow, 10 months ago (edited 10 months ago)

I did some testing with the latest code, main GItHub…

If you are a non-admin moderator of a community and you block a user in your community, their post is indeed hidden (filtered, not even sent) when you load the list of new posts for that community.

I am working on getting my testing code neat enough so that these kind of behaviors are documented and changes to them trigger testing alterations.

RoundSparrow, 10 months ago

Could they be making posts or commenting on threads within my communities and I’m not even seeing them?

correct. When you view the list of posts in the community, that person’s posts are not sent to you by lemmy_server. So they would fly under your moderation radar.

RoundSparrow, 10 months ago

lemmy.ml shows the same thing: lemmy.ml/instances

https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/3e453b82-3f85-46f2-8e2e-76dcae5e9503.png

Maybe some SQL is updating the wrong rows again?

RoundSparrow, 10 months ago

I looked at your instance, All, sorted by New. And I do see you have a lot of communities being fed from lemmy.ml and lemmy.world. Each vote, each comment, is federated as a single connection. Just the votes on posts and comments can be a huge number coming out of lemmy.world servers.

The error messages don’t really include the JSON content that causes them, and it seems pretty typical to get a lot of errors with 0.18.3 in routine operation. I’ve had to edit the Rust code to add logging earlier in the process, or even capture it out of the Nginx to Rust proxyiing to find out exactly what activity was causing the error. It might also be in the PostgreSQL tables for activity before it reaches this point, but not sure.

The UUIDs in the activities seem to be all uniqu

I haven’t found any way to trace those back to something useful from the peer server. Getting into the JSON content I find the ap_id is far more useful… but it doesn’t seem to come out in these logs.

RoundSparrow, 10 months ago

Something to consider… Lemmy runs fast with no data in it. Latency issue is tied to how much data they have stored in PostgreSQL. If they aren’t holding full copies of all the remote communities, sure it is faster, but your searches and All aren’t going to turn up much.

RoundSparrow, 10 months ago

The official lemmy-ui works fine, but it has never been a top priority for the Lemmy project; understandably so, as they’ve been focused on pioneering an ActivityPub-enabled forum backend.

They are actively developing a new Rust front-end too.

RoundSparrow, 10 months ago

Is this against a live server, or one of the testing servers?

There is logic within lemmy to try and detect the same network - and I can imagine it gets false positives with a variety of situations. Your one client is probably not the cause if you are posting 1 every 10 seconds.

RoundSparrow, 10 months ago

So if a home server goes down will those posts disappear from the community server?

terminology wise, “home server of a community” and then there are remote-servers for that community. And Lemmy community/devs tend to call a “server” an “instance”. To answer your question… if a user is on a remote instance from a community, they are reading copies of the content in a local database. If the community home instance goes down, the copies will still be there in the remote servers. However, they are now in an isolated island and none of the other servers will get the new post and comments - as the home instance of a community does distribution. There isn’t any kind of warning indicator that you are on an isolated island.

Nothing disappears, but it is possible to have incomplete replication - have only some of the comments and posts and get an impression that nobody replied or that there isn’t much content.

RoundSparrow, 10 months ago

A multi-community feature like multi-reddit wouldn’t be that hard to implement. Basically build a subscribe list that isn’t owned by a specific user and come up with a way to link them by name and ID. Being able to share community subscribe and block lists would seem a useful evolution of Lemmy.

RoundSparrow, 10 months ago

I did some testing code on this, and it actually seems to prevent the replies count from increasing. I went though the more difficult case of it being users from different instances… They can comment reply to your comment after being blocked, and their comments will appear upon unblock… but I didn’t see a reply notification. I didn’t test mention on block, same server, etc.

Anyway, I am working to get routine testing code in for this so behavior changes are caught.

RoundSparrow, 10 months ago

lemmy.ca staff was so frustrated with performance problems a couple weekends ago they cloned a copy of their database Running AUTO_EXPLAIN revealed site_aggregates logic in Lemmy was doing comment = comment + 1 counting against 1500 rows, for every known Lemmy instance in the database, instead of just writing 1 row.