SaakoPaahtaa

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SaakoPaahtaa,

If it is essential, where is it in Das Kapital?

Even better it’s in reality.

If it is inseparably attached, where is it in Das Kapital?

In reality too. Go check it out sometime and read a historybook.

Or do you not mean ‘intrinsic’ and ‘inherent’ when you use those words?

Do you always go for semantics when you don’t know how to intellectually best someone? I mean, there is a reason why communism is strictly for the uneducated and violent.

Instead of showing any sympathy for the countless of victims of communism, you instead purposefully drag the conversation into some weird mud fight on a book written by someone who never touched grass.

It is of course clear why you choose to move the discourse away from the fact that communism in it’s core is just transphobia, but again, admit it and I’ll play with you.

SaakoPaahtaa,

We are nazis

Yea I noticed the line between is quite thin indeed.

We’re closer to communism here in Finland.

Mitä vittua sä selität? Asutaan kyllä ihan sosiaalidemokraattisesa kapitalistisessa valtiossa jossa on yksityisomistusta. Lue uudelleen mun eka viesti ketjuun, jos osaat.

SaakoPaahtaa,

I take that as an admission of fascism.

And I’ll insult fascists when I see them.

SaakoPaahtaa,

I can show transphobia as a part of it

SaakoPaahtaa,

The part in which you derailed the civil conversation I was trying to have with you on the core ideology of communism (transphobia) which you turned into a weird semantics mud fight, even though the fact that communism is inherently transphobic was already established.

Typical fascism, trying to dodge responsibility and avoiding saying the quiet parts out loud. Glad I read you hateful fucks like a book.

SaakoPaahtaa,

Kaikki transfoobikot kuten sinä voitte haistaa vitut

SaakoPaahtaa,

Again with this lmao, you really can’t commit to a civil discussion about reality can you? I’ll show you a list where communists gathered their transgendered people.

SaakoPaahtaa,

I’m not a transphobe I just happen to follow an ideology that’s transphobic :)

Again, go fuck yourself

SaakoPaahtaa,

Please stay within the topic. Explain how communism isn’t intrinsically fascist even though all communist regimes have been fascist.

SaakoPaahtaa,

No, just you

That’s how quotes are used, otherwise it’s just a comment you know

SaakoPaahtaa,

Why does Communism necessitate killing minorities, and why are you assuming Social Democracies haven’t killed minorities?

Good question, let’s hope you are able to have a civil conversation!

First of all, every communist regime has systemically killed off their minorities. Social democrat governments haven’t. I hope that clears it up. If you come across social democratic governments systematically killing minorities, let me know though.

Do you think tools have a mystical property that requires the owners to turn evil if they are collectively owned, rather than privately?

Like I said earlier, the underlying economic model under the fascism is irrelevant to the millions of minorities having being killed by communist regimes.

SaakoPaahtaa,

Derailing from the topic is incivil. I’m not going to quote your post history. Just read through the chain.

SaakoPaahtaa,

my “derailing” was simply a request for clarification.

Transphobia is transphobia.

Don’t you think you should have done that earlier?

No, I remember you from an earlier thread a while back, you were fascist there too.

SaakoPaahtaa,

Every country had systemically killed off minorities.

Did I say talk about countries or governments? Keep it on topic

If you can’t, then Communism does not necessitate genocide.

Again, I don’t support transphobia, I just so happen to support communism which is a form of fascism which historically has systematically slaughtered transgendered people :)

Fuck you fascist.

SaakoPaahtaa,

your own thoughts to show up as a quote from someone else

I was literally quoting you. You support transphobic ideologies, you are a transphobe. Simple as.

Very common for fascists to dodge responsibility for their comments though.

SaakoPaahtaa,

Again with the weirdest derail.

What’s so hard with fascists to admit they’re fascist? Just say you hate minorities and get this over with, fuck that pathetic dodging.

SaakoPaahtaa,

Some communists are fascists.

Ok now we’re getting there, see it’s not that hard to stay on topic.

Some live in communes and stay away from society and aren’t interested in running countries. It’s a broad spectrum.

Oh, it is hard it seems.

And although you haven’t asked, I’m not a communist nor do I support communist ideology.

Alright sure, you’re just a fascist-apologist. What a surprise.

SaakoPaahtaa,

It’s only fascism if you act upon it!

Listen to yourself.

SaakoPaahtaa,

what you’re describing is happening in your imagination

Just to be clear, I am the only one in this thread trying to keep the discussion anchored in reality instead of semantics.

Literally quoting’ would mean that the quoted words are something I’d had written somewhere which isn’t true.

This is like the fifth time fascists have demonstrated this on this comment chain alone. I only implied being a transphobe but in fact I never actually wrote it down :)

Should we assume that your non-truths are deliberate lies and thus the phobic remarks are actually projection?

Again, I am the only one here even showing sympathy towards the victims of communism.

SaakoPaahtaa,

Ah, you’re a troll, checks out

Lost a convo -> ah you’re a troll haha. Classic dodge.

Weimar Republic was a failing Social Democracy that led to Nazi Germany, which was responsible for the Holocaust.

And the fish that decided to walk on land was responsible for 9/11. What the fuck are you on about?

I support collective ownership of the Means of Production, which will eventually lead to a Stateless, Classless, Moneyless society.

Yet in reality it only eventually has lead to genocide. Good going, I’m sure it’ll work the next time around. All you transfolk you’re good, we pinky promise not to kill you this time around :)

Still wont (or can’t?) be civil, tries to dodge responsibility and shows 0 sympathy for the victims of communism. Textbook fascist.

SaakoPaahtaa,

That’s not what I said. Please do not put words in my mouth.

Uh, quote below

So you’re saying people who live in communes and stay away from society and don’t bother anyone are fascists?

Implies that fascists that live in communes and stay away from society and don’t bother anyone are not fascists,

Also, I am tired of your insults,

Good. Go fuck yourself you transphobe. Back to 4chan with you.

another person you insulted and we are both going to flag you for violating community rules

Admitting to that but not fascism? Lmao

You might consider what you say carefully if you do intend to stay here.

I thought I left reddit wait what

SaakoPaahtaa,

Fascists have a tendency to support other fascists.

SaakoPaahtaa,

Clearly you lied when you said you wanted to discuss whether or not communism was fascism.

You’re the only one derailing the conversation off of it. We all know why, I said the quiet part out loud.

Why did you say you wanted a discussion on a topic you clearly don’t want to discuss?

All I want was fascists to admit they are fascists. But that wont happen, at best they’ll admit to misusing report functions of the website.

SaakoPaahtaa,

So go get your support

Why would I need support for, I’m intellectually besting everyone here?

SaakoPaahtaa,

Again, dragging the conversation down to semantics, is uncivil conversation a regular thing with you?

Haha, actually I’m not a fascist, just a fascist-apologist :)

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