leftzero

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leftzero,

Kugelblitzes might (theoretically) be a thing…

To wit, a sufficiently dense concentration of heat, light, or radiation could produce an event horizon similar to that of a black hole, which definitely would count as a noticeable relativistic effect.

leftzero,

LLMs aren’t going to be designing anything; they’re just fancy auto complete engines with a tendency to hallucinate facts they haven’t been trained on.

LLMs are preventing real advancements in AI by focusing the attention and funding into what’s evidently a dead end.

leftzero,

Proper AI definitely could.

LLMs…? Not a chance, absolute dead end, just a modern Eliza.

leftzero, (edited )

No, I’m a self-referential pattern recognition machine.

leftzero,

Exactly, but LLMs are preventing further advances in AGI.

leftzero, (edited )

LLMs are incapable of “recognising” any patterns they haven’t been trained on.

And they don’t really even recognise those, they’re just fancy auto complete engines, simply outputting the highest scored token from their training base based on their input.

They’re pattern matching machines; there’s no recognition, inner modelling of new knowledge, self referencing, or understanding of any kind, merely blind statistics.

They’re just bigger and fancier Eliza’s, and just as distant as Eliza was from any practical form of intelligence, artificial or natural.

While I personally do believe that achieving AGI¹, on a Turing machine is possible, LLMs and how they work are an excellent example in support of John Searle’s arguments against it with his Chinese room though experiment.

1— Or at least something equivalent to human intelligence, or better, in the measures by which we consider ourselves to be intelligent, though it’s arguable whether we can really be considered intelligent at all, or we’re just better, more complex, Chinese rooms.

leftzero,

Because there are many aspects of what we understand as “actual thinking” (understanding concepts, learning, or solving puzzles, for instance) that LLMs are fundamentally incapable of achieving no matter how larger or more complex we make them or how much we optimise them.

They do one single thing (which, granted, they do relatively well): they take an input, they apply it to every token in their training data, generating a score for each of them, and they output the one with the highest score. And that’s all they do.

And that’s why, for instance, you’ll never be able to make a LLM that’s any good at playing chess, because there simply wouldn’t be enough atoms in the universe for it to store all possible states of the game, which it would need to have in its training model in order to auto complete its next move (and that’s not even accounting for the actual score computation, both in space and time).

They’re a cool fancy gimmick, possibly useful in certain cases as long as you can account for their hallucinations, but they’re not any closer to actual intelligence than Eliza ever was.

leftzero,

I’m not talking about “machines” or any other generic term.

I’m talking specifically about LLMs. And their limitations are evident. For instance, maths is one of the many things they can’t do (and will never be able to do in any efficient way).

We have indeed, developed programs that play chess better than people (though sadly, until the LLM bubble pops we probably won’t get any further). But they’re not LLMs, or anything resembling an LLM. Because one of the other many things an LLM can’t do is play games of skill. Or reason. Or solve puzzles. Or even have a concept of strategy.

LLMs, again, can only do one single thing. And that’s to pick up the one card from their deck that’s been picked up most often after the sequence of cards on the table according to their training model.

That’s all they do. That’s all they’ll ever be able to do. Because that’s how they work. And, sure, with that you can make it look like they’re holding a conversation (until you ask them something that isn’t in their model), but that’s it.

They’ll put words after another according to statistics (not, keep that in mind, according to meaning, or strategy, or anything like that; they don’t, and can’t know or care what the words mean, or whether the sentence they’ve put together makes any sense, or whether what it’s stating is true or false), and that’s that.

They won’t play chess, they won’t write good innovative code, they won’t write original stories, and they won’t drive your car.

We don’t need to know how what we call consciousness works to know that. We just need to know how LLMs work. And that we most definitely do.

leftzero,

All the money’s going into the LLM bubble, so there won’t be any left for actual AI research until it bursts.

leftzero,

Some of them are inventing completely new ways of doing things

No, they’re not. All the money is now on the LLM autocomplete chatbots.

Real progress on AI won’t resume until after the LLM bubble has burst. (And even then investors will probably be wary of putting money in AI for probably a few decades, because LLMs are being marked as AI despite having little to do with it.)

It’s quite depressing, really.

leftzero,

There are parts of the story and maps we simply can’t get to because they aren’t there yet (I imagine about 30 to 50%), and there’s a limit to how much we can improve our relationship with the various characters (which means that there’s probably a significant amount of voice acting we can’t hear yet), all of this clearly indicated as provisionally cut content (“you might be able to do this in the future”, “can’t go there yet”, “what happened after this is, for now, literally indescribable”, that kind of thing).

There’s also what’s clearly provisional concept art from time to time, and plenty of placeholder character models and art (plus keepsakes, and fish, the later even having generic descriptions), and there’s almost certainly missing gods and characters (though there’s no indication of which those might be and in which number).

So, yeah, it’s not complete, by a long shot.

That said, I’m fairly certain that there’s already as much content and story as in the complete first game, if not more, or at least it feels like it. And it’s just as fun.

leftzero,

Several characters, all keepsakes, all fish except, I think, one, at least one background element…

The voice acting is all there

I’d be very surprised if the number of voiced characters isn’t significantly higher in the finished game. And, of course, we’re missing the top end of the relationship interactions with all characters, which will definitely be voice acted.

the mechanics are all there

I wouldn’t be surprised if we get some new mini games in certain parts of the map we can’t access yet.

Apart from these minor nitpickings, however, I completely agree (well, except that I haven’t had any crashes or significant bugs); I’m already enjoying the game as much as the first one, and I definitely feel I got my money’s worth, which is sadly quite unusual for too many supposedly complete games these days.

leftzero,

It’s called xitter, and it’s full of xit(s).

leftzero,

That cat was seeing a bird or bird equivalent when the picture was taken. It was almost certainly chirping, and probably wiggling its butt, preparing to pounce.

leftzero,

invent a gyroscope-balanced pod that can propel itself along a single railroad rail

No need, it was invented over a century ago.

https://coimages.sciencemuseumgroup.org.uk/13/22/medium_pic_1914_55210.jpg

Here’s a good video about it: https://youtu.be/kUYzuAJeg3M

leftzero,

Being able to fly greatly reduces the amount of predators that can eat you (as does being big, like elephants or whales, being generally out of sight and looking inedible, like naked mole rats, or being a walking extinction event that eradicates any predator stupid enough to mess with them, like humans, as long as we aren’t alone).

Most animals, especially small ones, generally will get eaten long before senescence becomes a problem, so they have no evolutionary pressure to select longer lived individuals.

Flying small animals, however, can escape predation often enough that that enough individuals die of natural causes that longer lived ones might have a sufficiently better chance of passing on their genes to be significant from an evolutionary standpoint.

So that’s probably why larger animals tend to live longer, and birds and bats (and naked mole rats and humans) live much longer than other animals of the same size. (Bats have similar lifespans to birds, some reaching 30 years.)

leftzero,

Does everyone hate real world?

I mean… kinda, yeah. Though, to be fair, the feeling seems to be mutual…

leftzero,

Meh, good luck with that.

All my Reddit comments have just said “Comment redacted in protest against Reddit’s deranged attacks against third party apps, the community, and common sense. See you’ll in Lemmy or Kbin once this embarrassment of a site is done enshittifying itself out of existence. Monetize this, u/spez, you greedy little pigboy. 🖕” since I edited them before moving here. 🤷‍♂️

leftzero,

It’s wrong, though. Kubrick hated travelling and filming on location. He had NASA send astronauts to the moon to shoot the backgrounds, but filmed everything in London. (As part of the payment, he got the lens he used to film Barry Lyndon, which had been designed to film the dark side of the moon and allowed him to shoot scenes lit only by candlelight).

leftzero, (edited )

I assume the lenses were intended to allow the Apollo missions to photograph the literal dark side of the moon, i.e., the side not lit by the sun while the capsule was passing over it, since they couldn’t wait half a month for it to get well lit and making the lenses was almost certainly cheaper than launching more capsules to make sure they covered every bit. 🤷‍♂️

Whatever the case, they were very “fast” lenses (that is, they had a very large relative aperture), which allowed cameras using them to get good pictures under very poor lighting conditions, like a big black rock lit by starlight or some XVIII century crooks lit by candlelight.

leftzero,

Preposterous. Burritos are calzone.

leftzero,

What I’m saying is cupcakes are valid options for all meals of the day.

Exactly! Q.E.D.!

leftzero,

The thing is that, as you said, it’s happened several times before. Beta Ray Bill, Red Norvell, Eric Masterson… it’s been established for a long time that in the Marvel universe the title of Thor, God of Thunder, may be held by people who aren’t Thor Odinson (and that he might occasionally lose it, though so far only temporarily, at least in the main continuity).

leftzero,

Sir Terry Pratchett’s Discworld’s wizards are sort of like this, at least once Mustrum Ridcully becomes archchancellor, and especially once they built their magic Rube Goldberg style supercomputer Hex.

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