That one ‘blindingly obvious’ thing is key often for me too. Sometimes it’s not only not obvious to other people but it’s entirely wrong too.
Ironically, it’s often the same thing the other way round: the neurotypical leaves off or implies some context that seems obvious to them and the people they normally communicate with.
The other main thing, from neurodivergent to neurotypical, is (not) implying emotional meaning. (And vice versa, not picking up on it.) You say something and mean it logically, but hidden in your words is emotional meaning - sometimes it’s real but you wouldn’t even know it yourself; sometimes it’s not real just you said things in a way that someone else would if they meant that extra emotion. Communication is about emotion as much as facts, and the listener rightly tries to pick up on emotions, but misunderstands.
Yes but you picked them in your ‘language’, not that of the listener. Neuro-typical/divergent communication is a bit like translating across languages. Words by themselves don’t always translate directly.
That said, I concede, many people don’t listen carefully and jump to conclusions based on what they expect you to say.
Yeah, it is a thing, but beware also the times when you misremember both their words and your own. I, certainly, have been guilty…
At the same time, it may help to remember that people are often listening to, and I presume ‘remembering’ a sort of semantic meaning of what you said, not the words. Add to that a little mishearing, some assumption, and different expectations between you and them, and that can shift the meaning a lot from what you meant, while to them it seems they just approximately remembered.
I’d like to add to that, that ‘blunted empathy’ can sound like you’re a bad person: but as I understand it, and as I think I experience it, it’s more about empathy in the precise sense: of not instinctively feeling how someone else feels about something. You can still care about a person, with kindness, but lack empathy. That can lead to not caring and being only self-interested, but doesn’t have to. Sometimes the neurodivergent person is trying to express - and enact - kindness, but, being weak in empathy, has to find a different way to express it, one that would make sense to themselves. Often one with specific, logical meaning of words.
So this is kind of a message to neurodivergents. You can be realistic about a relative jack of empathy, but don’t need to feel put down as a bad person, or that you’re unkind. And I’m truly sorry for all the times people won’t understand your kindness because of the ‘language’ barrier. Wish I could give you all a hug (if hugs are your thing).
Keep trying :-) And I hope there will be some people in your life who will keep trying to understand and express things your way too.
I mean, the vegans in question are also human (one presumes), so it makes sense they consider they have agency over themselves, not - for instance - over a lion which might ought to make up its own mind. And vegan humans might try and persuade other humans to embrace vegan ethics without yet making the wider step of preaching to lions (who might complain of colonialism or cultural dominance).
One presumes vegan lions, if such were to exist, would argue against the exploitation of humans for food (as in zoos), without requiring humans to conform to the same ethical standard.
The work bathroom is currently a warzone, on their phone speakers people like to play music, play games at full blast, and one guy likes to chill to ambient rainforest. What song can I play to passive aggressively make it known that I don’t want to listen to their tik tok feeds while I work out my demons?
There’s a funny story from the Holocaust (yeah… bear with me)
Nazis come into Corrie Ten Boom’s household, and they’re hiding Jews. Corrie’s sister has… perhaps an over-developed sense of honesty. Nazis demand, “where are the Jews!” The sister replies truthfully, “under the table.” Nazis don’t want to fall for it and look stupid so they don’t look under the table, and leave without finding them!
I think people do love to dunk on it. It’s the fashion, and it’s normal human behaviour to take something popular - especially popular with people you don’t like (e.g. j this case tech companies) - and call it stupid. Makes you feel superior and better.
There are definitely documented cases of LLM stupidity: I enjoyed one linked from a comment, where Meta’s(?) LLM trained specifically off academic papers was happy to report on the largest nuclear reactor made of cheese.
But any ‘news’ dumping on AI is popular at the moment, and fake criticism not only makes it harder to see a true picture of how good/bad the technology is doing now, but also muddies the water for people believing criticism later - maybe even helping the shills.
Facts. (lemmy.world)
Reinventing the wheel (lemmy.world)
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Autism rule (midwest.social)
the people I know don’t listen and often hear the opposite of what I say. That’s why I have to repeat myself a lot.
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Trump revives false claim that Biden authorized ‘deadly force’ for Mar-a-Lago search (www.theguardian.com)
Meet my new puppy: Ass! (lemmy.world)
Life is pain (lemmy.world)
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I'm fine with a little internal contradiction! (lemmy.world)
What song should I play for my bathroom neighbors?
The work bathroom is currently a warzone, on their phone speakers people like to play music, play games at full blast, and one guy likes to chill to ambient rainforest. What song can I play to passive aggressively make it known that I don’t want to listen to their tik tok feeds while I work out my demons?
TIL the US government once banned sliced bread (www.mentalfloss.com)
Looks like the humans will be extinct soon (lemmy.world)
Via War and Peas
I hope it's not gross this time (lemmy.world)
Honesty is the best policy (lemmy.world)
when google bought datasets from reddit (lemmy.world)
we love google (and LLMs)...