younity

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younity,

You can once they have both been set up, the history from that point on is shared.

younity,

Agreed, I quit my browser when I encounter that sense that I’ve read this or heard this already… that sensation is happening more and more frequently and so far, the fediverse has been a huge let down for me personally. I was hoping for a return to sense and humble origins of what made reddit good, instead people are literally just emulating reddit 2019 culture on the fediverse and it gives me extremely senior “get off my lawn” vibes.

younity,

That leads me to another topic, I disagree. You know scientists always trying to make things happen but never asking if they “Should”?

That’s how I feel about “good” bot content, where, sure, a bot can post something that generates a novel human discussion, but I think this is also inherently bad and is as close as you can get to providing a “turn-key community brainwash application” to anyone who wants it.

IE: the bot posts good stuff, we all pat the bot on the back with upvotes because it wasn’t horrible, but then we trust the bot, people trust the bot, then there is no way for us to know if the bot is compromised, what if the bot is compromised, and is slowly but surely, algorithmically recommending content to divide and confuse, FUD, etc…

This is my concern, and lambast me for paranoia, but I’m not wrong, and this is one reason reddit went down the shithole.

younity,

Thanks, didn’t know that. The question I have now, is why did the admin implement that in the first place? Overwhelming response of " The content bot should be removed entirely. 39.02% (48 votes)" the closest has 17% of “it should post less articles”.

younity,

The API access for bots allows for other people to access that API and make bots that do other things. You are opening the floodgates to other bots because there isn’t quite the ability to say “only sports bots who post legitmate scores at times when there are real games occurring can post automatically” you see, that is not going to happen, thereby opening the floodgates to all other bots with no recourse.

younity,

I think the harm caused by bots affects the whole community and culture, that is why I hope other people will see that a community without bots would actually create a preferable culture and would increase the demand for good quality content.

younity,

You could have just as easily ignored this post and moved on… why post if you think this is all just personal preference?

NO, it’s not just preference, bots lower the quality of the community, and it’s easily observed.

younity,

Why allow bots, marketing assholes, and spammers the platform to post and spam to the fediverse? Why? IT really achieves nothing of value and literally just dilutes real, original user activity and discussion.

younity,

Humans literally run bots to do things that they wouldn’t/couldn’t/or shouldn’t DO. Your logic is beyond reproach.

younity,

A bot that masquerades as a regular user and posts paid marketing content once a month

A bot that posts political articles with tailored sensational/biased headlines

A bot that records all activity on an instance and creates a topological graph of the activity tied to users and the content they interact with

A bot that posts a picture of cat, a picture that anyone can fucking google or something that nobody needs or asked for

Who fucking cares if you can come up with harmless “good” uses for bots… they always come with the bad.

younity,

If you have to explain the joke it wasn’t funny

younity,

Okay so then, if a human wants to post score of every sports game to a community, they can’t unless they practice the discipline in doing so. A bot removes the human limitation and allow them to do something that is not possible otherwise, and I believe the end result is content that is removed from the humanity behind it in the first place. A self-defeating prophecy that spells my disinterest and permanent doom for fediverse – I can’t stand this place and the ignorance regarding sensitive topics and the disdain to change.

younity,

That 3rd bot is intentionally a direct reference to NSA PRISM

younity,

Why are you telling me this? I don’t care that you think you’re adding value by summing totals of a poll for me. That isn’t a convenience, that’s an irritant.

younity,

Who really cares about that

younity,

It’s also about how it could be used for astroturfing and propaganda, filling platforms with artificial posts meant to condition their users.

That’s the nail I am trying to hit here.

younity,

People like you are why any place of cultural import becomes less and less interesting as you inhabit and deteriorate the standards which used to be upheld from within. You are the ultimate consumer. “I don’t care” is not a position in any philosophical debate, why should it stand here?

younity,

There’s also an option to kill myself to avoid reading your post, but I don’t want to do that.

younity,

I think disallowing 3rd party api the ability to post would pretty much overnight stop all bots, whereas, in your head, you would have to investigate them all? no. we aren’t on the same page or in the same textbook.

younity,

The result is overwhelming “not good as it currently is” no? Your pedantry is so tiring and futile. lmfao

younity,

Mods are an incredibly inefficient way to moderate people.

younity,

People that have been living as the bottom 99% their whole life and they keep telling others to “fork” or “make your own twitter” if you don’t like it…

I see your point, change needs to happen at the top and the idea that 99% telling other 99% to fork it make their own whatever, is so beyond the pale that this needs to be re-evaluated by all.

younity,

I use firefox and I have ascended from a lifestyle of tab fiefdom. I only have a handful of tabs open at a time, no more than 5… hell, I have my browser closed 100% of the time unless I’m actively browsing. Couldn’t you just create a folder with bookmarks, then “open all” bookmarks to open a virtual “tab group”?

younity,

The blue collar workers aren’t “picking up the slack” of a sysadmin who manages the warehouse system, are they? no, they don’t have the desire or skills to manage a server and that’s fine. But you cannot pick up slack for people who do uniquely different work?

younity,

The same reason you said a 32 hour work week is impossible, “because manufacturing”

Why does overtime exist already? The question you are asking on the face is so asinine it barely merits a response.

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