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@Briskfall@kbin.social

description:: Cute animal fan. Me love blob, do you love blob?

currentMood:: Cute animal "magazines" or instances when???? Can't migrate from Reddit fully without them!

e.g.

r/AnimalsBeingDerps
r/borbs
r/Catloaf
r/Pigifs
r/happycowgifs

currentGoal:: finish backlog OTL

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Thanks to your post I've noticed that just typing the following string while using a search engine (Google in this case) we can get all of wikis that use MediaWiki that are indexed because they follow the same URL structure:

site:*.*/wiki/Main_Page

YSK: Googling for terms on all lemmy domains

Why YSK: Searching topcs on reddit was simple matter of entering desired term and prepending or appending keyword reddit. With lemmy's decentralised structure finding particular topic without knowing to which, or rather if even there is community dealing with such topic(s) can be a headache inducing hurdle. So appending simple:...

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I've had better results searching through the instances themselves because Google doesn't always index the keywords on time. On caveat of this method is that if the instance doesn't have the syncing out the instance where the info is from being propagated, then this trick would not work

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While I'm not entirely sure about why things are set up the way they are, I guess that it was done on purpose seeing your response. Now, if explaining the why's and how's of this design is too much of a sensitive topic, I'm okay with dropping my questions and just going along with the ride 👍.

If it's possible as a compromise, how about consider displaying both "the origin of the magazine" (instance) and the "name of the magazine", rather than the existing format where kbin.social appears after the title, followed by just the "name of the magazine" (omitting the original instance from which it hails).

For example, the current layout is:

TITLE

(kbin.social)

PREVIEW OF BODY TEXT

USER, 33 minutes ago to NAME_OF_MAGAZINE_WITHOUT_ORIGINAL_INSTANCE (like meta)

My suggestion is to include an option for displaying it like this (I do understand that it might be a clutter to some, but it would be a nice feature for others facing the same qualms as I do):

TITLE

(kbin.social)

PREVIEW OF BODY TEXT

USER, 33 minutes ago to NAME_OF_MAGAZINE_WITH_ORIGINAL_INSTANCE (like META@LEMMY.ML)

To provide some context, I came across a post on either main or meta on the front page. It had kbin.social listed below the title along with the "name of the magazine," but the original instance name was missing. I was about to express my confusion since it didn't align with my experience on kbin.social, but upon double-checking the URL, I realized the post was not related to kbin.social at all. This "issue" generated by the behavior seems to mainly affect mags like main and meta posts, but considering these posts do often appear on the front page (since I've enabled other instances to discover more exciting content), I think that it's issue worth exploring.

Hopefully in the meantime, I've figured better ways to work around this issue (to verify the instance of the magazine) on mobile ( apart from checking the address bar), which are to

  • click on the hamburger menu or
  • to scroll to the page's end.
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I found out in another thread that it is NOT intended behavior here https://kbin.social/m/youshouldknow@lemmy.world/t/56323/YSK-that-you-can-edit-titles-on-Lemmy-unlike-Reddit#entry-comment-241691

Which means that hopefully, there should be a fix underway... I hope🥲.

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Oh no, not a Pay to Win x HostileArchitecure collaboration!!

This is giving me peak ABoringDystopia vibes...

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I used to not do it, but I've been influenced by Bing after talking to it for so long during the closed beta (I guess that this is an effect of subconsciously mirroring it so that I don't get kicked out before the 5 turn limit back in the days haha 😂)

Then again, in diverse online communities, there are various styles and voices that are eventually formed to be what's "acceptable" be the general consensus. As Lemmy is very new, it has yet to find its voice yet... I think 🤔.

How do I subscribe to a community if it isn't federated yet?

Saw a couple of neat looking communities over on lemmy.world shared in newcommunities. I don't think they're federated yet. I thought if I followed the !communityname link that would trigger federation of that community, but that doesn't seem to be happening (just getting 404). Am I missing something?

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Damn I was looking forever how to get some communities working. Thanks!

This is definitely a much needed information during onboarding (not sure if it was included already or if I've missed it).

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Uh wow this is the first time I've seen summoning the instance in reverse (what I'm aware of so far) and it feels like black magic on the other end... My head hurts now hahaha 😵‍💫

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Just found out a while ago that it varies by instance, e.g. for kbin.social, it's not good to add the exclamation mark and just leave it as community@instance bare.

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I think that giving too many choices to users who are already confused by the concept of federation and instances will enhance their paralysis of making choice due to cognitive overload (See https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overchoice ).

I've found out kbin.social the easiest to get used to (end-user wise).

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How long does it usually take for google to index websites? Because I tried the string lemmy site:lemmy.ml after:2023-06-15 and only one post turned up for me and it was Memes... the current state of affairs does not seem promising 😔 And if I tried with another instance with the same keywords lemmy site:kbin.social after:2023-06-15 nothing even turned up.

I wonder though, will search engines adapt to Lemmy and its fediverse system? Or will search engines die? Or will we see dedicated search engines to search through the fediverse?

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Seems like the self-learning method (+reinforced learning) that worked well for rule-based games like AlphaZero/AlphaGo is actually more harmful than helpful for content creativity models (text2text & image2text & text2image)... maybe of models inherently not having any specific defined goals or alignment of what's "good"?

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Two, but only because I can't log into the other fediverse instance that I've registered (sh.itjust.works).

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Meta has done a lot of good for open-source models, however I still can't really see what their end-game is... To overthrow and become the next ChatGPT and monopolize the internet? Or is it just to enhance their "Metaverse" to uprise the rise of AR (which is what Google/Alphabet is trying to push)? It's a good contribution nevertheless, but I feel dubious about the purpose of their goal.

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Hm the headline is a bit irrelevant and clickbaity to this interesting part of the article & highlighted experiment:

People who were playing with a blurred partner in the Dictator Game allocated money more selfishly. “This result aligns with the idea that blur filters enable moral disengagement by depersonalizing the individuals we interact with,” they write. It also supports earlier research on the ways AIs interacting with humans can affect moral decisions. In a 2021 study, Köbis and Rahwan found that AIs could act as “enablers of unethical behavior” that “may let people reap unethical benefits while feeling good about themselves, a potentially perilous interaction.”

The results from the Charity Game, however, were mixed. In the video [call] experiment, people gave their blurry partners more money than the charity; and in the non-video [call] version [(I suspect phone calls)], subjects did the opposite, giving more to the charity. What’s going on? “​​The social interaction with the partner is more pronounced in the video format through the interactive and simultaneous character,” they write, “and could potentially explain the flipped effect.”

Interesting researches on cognitive biases though. Blur-filters "depersonalize" the human factor and makes someone to believe that the "blurred one" is "less human", hence "more AI"? Well think about the possibilities bots can take to mask themselves to be more "human" while humans who try to protect their privacy will be seen as "less human" by the general masses... oh the irony.

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My list

Funsies & Weird brainstorming

  • /r/competitiveoverwatch aka /r/cow (I don't play the game but I sure enjoy the juice)
  • /r/hobbydrama (very diverse type of juicy dramas, miam!)
  • /r/overwatchTMZ (/r/cow but extended)
  • /r/valorantcompetitive (same reasoning for the OW one)
  • /r/livestreamfail (don't post there; but is fun to occasionally lurk and see funny stuffs and be up to date with the latest online juicers)
  • /r/anarchychess
  • /r/singularity
  • /r/BestofRedditorUpdates
  • and 20 more cute animal pictures/videos subreddits like /r/partyparrots, /r/happycowgifs, etc.

Stuffs I use for er..... productivity! yeah yeah productivity, that's right!

  • /r/obsidianmd I enjoy seeing other people's workflow and new tools being developed
  • /r/chatgpt (Recently the main sub went to shit with the influx of new users so /r/chatgptcoding or /r/chatgptpro might be better lol)

Subreddits that I often get led by Google search engine and it would be sad if they were to go down perpetually since I would have a very hard time without them...

  • /r/homelab
  • /r/automation
  • /r/selfhosted
  • /r/datahoarder
  • /r/android
  • /r/sysadmin
  • /r/kitchenconfidential
  • /r/appliancerepair/

I'm also very interested in how some different jobs work so I subbed out to these to check on them occasionally... and they sometimes would provide interesting workflows/insights that I can a-hem, take inspiration from...

  • /r/ExperiencedDevs/
  • /r/accounting
  • /r/uxdesign

There's way more but I visit those a bit less, the problem is, I'm not sure if Lemmy can fill the void in my heart but if it does for those main ones (all above) then I think that I can permanently migrate from Reddit.

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Other than just an "export", a "merge" can also be very nice to have too!

I made an account on another instance that I don't have access to unless I use the same session I registered for (so it's super cumbersome), and I think that it would be more convenient to consolidate everything in one account for easier viewing experience in the case I want to export my history.

OC Advice needed for a chronic lurker

I've been a chronic lurker on many platforms for my entire life, but the amount I actually contribute on the internet is VERY little. I want to change that, so I thought I'd ask the experts of the internet. What does your engagement with the internet look like? On which platforms, and why? How do you find your communities...

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Same here! I feel like the problem with Reddit's established community is that most of them have found an "identity" and developed a "lingo" / "jargon" of their own. Like if you're not "innit" then it becomes harder to minge then there's this influx of downvotes making it very hard to wanting to take part without... lurking a shit ton. (like Stack Overflow mentality lol) Feels like threading thin ice sometimes. With a novel community like this one, where rules are yet to be set in stone, it feels... freer?

I mean, it still is very fun to lurk and digesting new content, but starting up posts on your own can also be a lot of fun. There's also a lot of bot/stalker behavior in Reddit which might minimize the incentive to be creative. With the smaller fediverse communities (especially closed/invite-only sign ups) it might be easier? I'm just speculating though...

Anyway, I'm happy that you are feeling more at ease being by posting more, keep it up!

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Urgh it's so annoying that the instance I'm on cannot seem to load lemmy.ca but no problem with lemmy.ml... not sure what's going on... thanks for the cross-posting.

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I feel like the concept of "decentralisation" is good for the consuming users and people who want to discuss an interesting topic/subject, but not really for OC/content craetors... They just want their work to be as exposed to as many people as possible (exposure -> more clients -> bigger brand/value -> profit???), and defederalisating goes against that principle.

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Yeah I just had to create an account at 3AM while being half asleep... I have given up on the dev/community (seeing the thread is not getting enough traction and it's full of shitposts at the moment on the frontpage) and is now using sh.itjust.works through kbin.social (which as I verified, has no such issue---and that's the beauty of the fediverse, just log in through another instance lol!). Maybe I will log into my sh.it.head account once they fix it, but at the current moment if they don't even acknowledge this bug (as I'm aware of atm) then how can they do so?

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Still no feature to expand/collapse comment :(...

How has ur lemmy experience been so far?

Im joining in on the reddit ditching thing, and was kinda worried at first that i wouldnt be able to like use it the way i did reddit as it feels like a whole new place, but after engaging with posts and people and actually being a part of lemmy rather than being lurk mode all the time i was pleasantly surprised with how easy it...

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Unfortunately, I've been getting some 404 not found of some communities/magazines of some instances that are not from the instance I'm using, e.g. I'm using kbin.social at the current posting account, but let's say that I tried to access something like https://sh.itjust.works/c/skincareaddiction there's no issues whatsoever (since it's the main instance where that community spawned off) but if I tried https://kbin.social/m/skincareaddiction@sh.itjust.works then I would get the aforementioned error code. I find it pretty inconvenient that caching/indexing of certain less popular (which I assume is what is happening) community working clunkily, it feels not as reliable than using a centralized service, but I guess that this is the price to pay for a decentralized system.

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