queue,
@queue@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Hey I want y’all to know that I’m locking this, but:

I agree with OP. Burning Harry Potter books doesn’t hurt anyone. No one here would give a shit if it was burning a copy of some horrid book. And Harry Potter isn’t going to be out of print any time soon.

When Nazis did it, it was a complete removal of the only copies of a queer library in Germany. OP can’t do that to Harry Potter.

I’m only locking this to save the mod team and the admins the headache. I can only expect transphobia, ableism, and “but that nazis also burned books!!! youre as bad as the nazis!!!”.

Roflmasterbigpimp,
@Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world avatar

This Instance just got really hostile reaaaaaaaaaaally fast. I don’t like this vibe at all ._.

princessnorah,
@princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Coming from somebody on the instance that defederated the piracy communities just because someone put a post up saying “piracy is illegal and bad” 😂😂😂

Roflmasterbigpimp,
@Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world avatar

Yes and now that is clear there is no legal threat they are back. So what was your point?

princessnorah,
@princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

lmao piss off, you don’t give a shit about vibes of hostility, you wouldn’t have stayed around and replied to my other comment if you did. awwwhhhh is someone’s feelings hurt a different instance decided to value it’s own users over some power-tripping admin?? 😭😭

Roflmasterbigpimp,
@Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world avatar

Why do you feel the need to insult people? I’m just gonna report you.

KingThrillgore,
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

I do not like the cunt but destroying books is a line even I won’t cross. Just don’t feed into the wizarding world anymore. Move on.

Roflmasterbigpimp,
@Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world avatar

The tone just got very fast very hostile in this Instance. And I don’t like that at all.

princessnorah, (edited )
@princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

i felt differently about my personal childhood copies after coming out as a trans woman ¯_(ツ)_/¯ it’s not like i went to the shop and bought a new set just to burn like a republican would have

DampSquid,

Yeah, shit books for simpletons. And that’s before we get into any of the political shit.

TheDoozer,

It’s always funny when views wrap around to completely opposed groups.

Those who are adamantly against J.K. Rowling for her TERF views might be about burning her books. Fundamentalists that think magic is not only real, but inherently evil would also be about burning the books.

princessnorah,
@princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

“hurrrr durrrr both sides are bad ackshually”

this is you, this is what you sound like.

Brokewood,

Nah, it’s much closer to Nietzsche’s “Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process they do not become monsters.”

protist,

I gotta say, burnings books is a pretty bad look, no matter what the book is.

Plenty people love Harry Potter in spite of Joanne’s really unfortunate views, and by burning this book rather than putting it back in circulation second-hand through Half Price Books or something, you’re encouraging the publisher to print more books and make Joanne more money

princessnorah,
@princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

please don’t start shit in the comments, i’m too disabled to care

protist, (edited )

Kind of embarrassing for you that right above this you started shit in the comments

Edit: This comment before I changed it said “Really unfortunate you’re choosing not to engage.”

princessnorah, (edited )
@princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Really unfortunate you think someone with a disability owes you something. it’s a meme. this is a meme group. you want to “engage” someone on it, go post in a discussion group.

or ya know, go suck my dick, idc either way.

edit: sick edit, still don’t care if im being “rude”, as your original comment stated, to someone who had to post their super smart observation in response to a meme

HotDogFingies,
HotDogFingies avatar

I'm also disabled. That doesn't mean you can just say/do anything without consequences.

Nobody said you owed them anything.

princessnorah,
@princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Nobody said you owed them anything.

Easy to say if you didn’t see the original, completely different comment before it was edited. Please shove it with the respectability politics. I am tired, out of spoons and I gave fair warning. I don’t owe anyone politeness, especially so on this topic.

protist,

My original comment said “Really unfortunate you’re choosing not to engage.” Not sure what you’ve found do controversial about that, because here you are.

If you don’t owe anyone politeness, what makes you think any of us owe you anything? You’re going to hate this, but the reason you’re getting shit thrown at you is because you’re throwing shit

princessnorah,
@princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

You’re going to hate this, but I’m well aware already 😊

Globulart,

You seem like a real cunt :) x

princessnorah,
@princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

That’s the best compliment anyone’s ever given me 🥰

Globulart,

Then you’re totally welcome :) x

Do you realise the first comment in the thread was just a harmless (amusing even) observation and you were triggered for some reason and responded with “hurrr durrr”…?

princessnorah,
@princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

way to out yourself as a piece of shit by using the word triggered like that snowflake :) x

Globulart, (edited )

Is that a thing? Only pieces of shit use the word triggered now…?

See, to me, you outed yourself as a piece of shit by burning things that could have been donated to kids who have nothing.

So I guess we all have our perspectives huh? :) x

Edit: interesting edit to decide to add the word snowflake to your comment… Trying to work out if you’re being a bit thick or deliberately ironic. Either way it’s an odd decision in this context to be honest.

SingularEye,

someone with a disability

why is that relevant here?

reversebananimals,

Its not. This person just sucks.

protist,

I posted in response to your “hurrrr durrrr” comment, and never called you rude, that is someone else above.

princessnorah,
@princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

You’re right, my mistake. Still don’t give a shit. Still not going to be polite about it. Telling me to engage about this is the same sort of tacit transphobia as saying there’s still a debate to be had about trans people’s right to exist. A vocal minority of fuckwits does not mean there’s cause for a discourse.

protist,

Talking about book burning is not at all tacit transphobia or in any way comparable to trying to debate anyone’s right to exist. I get you’ve been through and dealt with a lot, but it seems like you’re trying really hard to find transphobia here where it does not exist

princessnorah,
@princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

and you really want to have a real discussion and i still really don’t give a shit. i’m not going to engage just because you tell me too. repeatedly telling me i should engage on “burning books is bad” is the transphobic part. i don’t need to explain myself or my actions. i don’t need to justify them to you or anyone else. now please, could you leave me the fuck alone?

MantidSys,
MantidSys avatar

i still really don’t give a shit

Ok, don't respond.

i’m not going to engage just because you tell me too

Ok, don't respond.

repeatedly telling me i should engage on “burning books is bad” is the transphobic part.

Topics in life are nuanced and intersect. Burning one book with the reasoning that it's fighting transphobia does not nullify the other things that book burning represents. If book burning being bad is transphobic, then fascists are trans-positive. Clearly, that's not how the world works. An action is not defined solely by intent, but also by how it is received by others. You do not get to define how your messages are received, and part of human socialization is navigating how others feel about what you do. Communication is a two-way street, but you're demanding that only your way matters.

i don’t need to explain myself or my actions.

Ok, don't respond.

i don’t need to justify them to you or anyone else.

Ok, don't respond.

now please, could you leave me the fuck alone?

You could have exited the conversation by not responding.

princessnorah,
@princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Ok, don’t respond.

Globulart,

Ahhhh, you have last word syndrome I see :) x

MantidSys,
MantidSys avatar

Being disabled means the person is incapable of maintaining enough working hours to support themselves under our current systems.

Being disabled does not mean the person is granted the right to redefine social interactions to preference, and to demand everyone else comply.

If you truly felt you owed them nothing, then nothing compelled you to respond. If you truly did not want to respond, you would not respond. "Look what you're making me do" isn't a valid stance - it's manipulation - because you're in control of your own actions. No one made you respond but you.

Introspect. You're making your life more difficult than it needs to be.

princessnorah,
@princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar
MantidSys,
MantidSys avatar

I hope you some day learn that everything in life is made up of many, smaller, things. And I hope that gaining that knowledge empowers you to feel like you have control over at least some of the stresses in your life. And I hope that leads you to a place where you're not angry and lashing out at the very people you seek validation from. And I hope that when you stop pushing people away, you will receive the validation you need - that we all need, as human beings - and you can feel the relief you're currently searching for. And that some day, the comments in this thread will seem like a silly thing to have been upset about.

I hope you find the peace you need. Have a good day.

princessnorah,
@princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Go placidly amid the noise and the haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence. As far as possible, without surrender, be on good terms with all persons.

Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even to the dull and the ignorant; they too have their story.

Avoid loud and aggressive persons; they are vexatious to the spirit. If you compare yourself with others, you may become vain or bitter, for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself.

Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans. Keep interested in your own career, however humble; it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time.

Exercise caution in your business affairs, for the world is full of trickery. But let this not blind you to what virtue there is; many persons strive for high ideals, and everywhere life is full of heroism.

Be yourself. Especially do not feign affection. Neither be cynical about love; for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment, it is as perennial as the grass.

Take kindly the counsel of the years, gracefully surrendering the things of youth.

Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune. But do not distress yourself with dark imaginings. Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness.

Beyond a wholesome discipline, be gentle with yourself. You are a child of the universe no less than the trees and the stars; you have a right to be here.

And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should. Therefore be at peace with God, whatever you conceive Him to be. And whatever your labors and aspirations, in the noisy confusion of life, keep peace in your soul. With all its sham, drudgery and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be cheerful. Strive to be happy.

Catpurple,

I don’t know, burning a pile of copies of mein kampf would be pretty based, I think it really depends on the book.

Roflmasterbigpimp,
@Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world avatar

Ah, yes. The good old “Argumentum ad hominem”. Or in this case more like “I can’t refute you, so you are a nerdy caveman.”-Argument.

Very mature and not low quality argumentation at all. /s

Supervivens,

I mean I don’t think that’s at all what they were doing and tbh that was pretty rude. They just thought it was funny how something managed to offend two completely opposed groups for completely different reasons.

princessnorah,
@princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

please don’t start shit in the comments, i’m too disabled to care

Darkassassin07,
@Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca avatar

Coming from the person that’s starting shit in the comments…

princessnorah,
@princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

bite me

toasteecup,

Is that an actual invitation cause that’s a thing for me

princessnorah,
@princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

only if you’re also a girl with a penis (girls that formerly owned a penis are welcome to apply)

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