jakehamilton,
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I like , I do not like what has happened to it. is an incredible technology and it deserves better. Nobody else has started the process so I guess I have to be the one to do it. We are forking. I would rather try and fail alongside all the people who love Nix but were pushed away from the project than give up.

https://aux.computer/

soupglasses,
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@jakehamilton Im personally watching for the board's response. They might have something brewing coming.

Also if we are hard forking. I would love to see it GPL'd.

soupglasses,
@soupglasses@hachyderm.io avatar

@jakehamilton Another huge thing would be tiering the core and "extras" packages. Currently there is no great way to distinguish between core packages and loose fun packages inside nixpkgs. It would be nice to have it a bit more seperated and give a lot more focus to a good core.

sandro,
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@soupglasses @jakehamilton Well, technically there is already a loose grouping. Everything going into the stdenv is absolute core and anything requiring to go to staging could also be classified important. All packages that are just one rebuild, are leaf packages and sometimes can be considered for fun.

AngryAnt,
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@soupglasses @jakehamilton Personally that would be a fork without my participation and that is what it is, but outside of that I am curious why further slimming down the project community in its precarious state, with an abandonment of MIT, would be desirable when guix is right there.

soupglasses,
@soupglasses@hachyderm.io avatar

@AngryAnt @jakehamilton Companies frustrate me to no end, and permissive licensing so often ends up being ultimately hurtful on the long game. See the history of the BSDs and Linux, and which won the world, and which has a lot of "extentions" from companies that never get formally up-streamed.

I am however curious how this is a dealbreaker.

soupglasses,
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@AngryAnt @jakehamilton Not so much an "anti company" thing, but more so protecting Nix (or possibly Aux here) from further shenanigans down the line. It should be a thing for the community, by the community. We are not here to cater to companies every desire. The whole point of the fork is that Nix is too conflicted with its ties to companies like Audril and Determinate Systems now. Hence the more formalizing idea of using a GPL/copyleft license for the fork.

AngryAnt,
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@soupglasses @jakehamilton I'm not here to cater to companies every desire either.

But my open source is passion is more aligned with OSI than GNU. I personally prefer my work be as available as possible when I give it away.

I can respect the GNU principles (if not all their behaviour) and still prefer to align myself differently.

Unquestionably this stance is coloured by a background in small startup shops where repeatedly getting told your struggle needs to be harder because corpo gets old.

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