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A_A, (edited ) in Why people tend to believe UFOs are extraterrestrial
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sociologist explains UFO with sociology 🥱

Never should have been published in phys.org

Hey @ChatGPT please summarize the article below: phys.org/…/2023-07-people-tend-ufos-extraterrestr…

TinyPizza, in Sen. Hawley: UFO whistleblower's claims 'plausible' | Elizabeth Vargas Reports
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I would caution any legitimizing of this information by far right politicians or pundits. Tucker Carlson, Alex Jones and now Josh Hawley have all begun parading this intelligence around. It doesn't matter whether their reasoning is to change the subject on current party problems, run static and amplify over top of bad actions, or to just generally gain press and stir things up as agents of chaos. Just know that they are using this story to their own ends and for their own means and that tying them to it can very well act like a poison pill as things progress. I really hope that something comes from all of this but if this Nazi saluting seditionist was the one to say it I wouldn't believe it for a single second.

blaine,

Sounds like you are falling victim to the "genetic fallacy". One of the easiest logical fallacies to fall into.

TinyPizza,
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I'm not falling for any fallacy dude. We are discussing a topic that is already going to need to pass the highest scrutiny imaginable and is done damage, when associated with a man who's own friends say, is a liar. Credibility is what the whole of this situation needs and at every level. The majority appeal of this situation is entirely based around the perceived inscrutable nature of the whistleblower and the vocal respected character references that are relevant. If you like Josh Hawley, unfortunate, but so be it. Just know that it will always be the case that you are known by the company you keep.

drewsipher, in The Truth about Roswell: Decoding Decades of Deception

I like this channel a lot but I can’t tell if this dude is some actual conspiracy qanon type dude or if he’s just a normal dude with a passion for these stories…

nieceandtows, in Intelligence Officials Say U.S. Has Retrieved Craft of Non-Human Origin - The Debrief

Don’t follow the ufo scene much, but what happened to the big announcement that was going to happen during the Reddit protests? I thought there was a whistleblower who said something about ufos.

Edit: looks like this is a month old article about the same thing my original comment was about.

Dressedlikeapenguin,

These always seem to be about nothing in the end

Polydextrous,

“Verified to be in possession of crafts, both partial and intact, of non-human origin” is definitely not nothing.

That’s pretty huge news. There are definitely aliens, they’ve definitely visited earth…the fact that this is coming out, along with the USAF verifying that there are videos that show them chasing “verified craft of non-human origin,” seems like something is happening, moving us toward exposure of some kind.

It’s pretty interesting if you ask me. I just don’t think we’ve really wrapped our minds around it. That, or we’ve all expected as much for so long that the knowledge of all of the above is more of a relief than anything, because they’re not hostile to humans.

Heptagon,

It’ll stop being something as soon as it’s anything more verifiable than somebody simply claiming it to be true

Polydextrous,

“Verified to be in possession of crafts, both partial and intact, of non-human origin” is definitely not nothing.

That’s pretty huge news. There are definitely aliens, they’ve definitely visited earth…the fact that this is coming out, along with the USAF verifying that there are videos that show them chasing “verified craft of non-human origin,” seems like something is happening, moving us toward exposure of some kind.

It’s pretty interesting if you ask me. I just don’t think we’ve really wrapped our minds around it. That, or we’ve all expected as much for so long that the knowledge of all of the above is more of a relief than anything, because they’re not hostile to humans.

EtherealZucchini,

Talk is cheap. I don’t believe it. More likely it’s a cover story or misdirection for some military project.

Polydextrous,

It’s a whistleblower. Why would they draw attention to tech, that people aren’t really talking about being military, just to say it’s verified that aliens exist and have visited us, all in an effort to hide something else? I just don’t think that makes sense

EtherealZucchini,

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence and this is a very extraordinary claim for which we have no real evidence except their word. In light of that almost any alternative explanation is more plausible than “it was aliens”.

Dufurson, in Top US officials have ‘first-hand knowledge’ of UFOs: Sen. Marco Rubio
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They are finally declassifying what the whole world already knew and they kept hiding even with deads behind their backs. About time, but we'll see with what intention all this whistleblowers operation has been orchestrated

zhaosima,

Are they though?

timeisart, in June 23, 2023

tf is that?? nice vid

blaine, in Sen. Hawley: UFO whistleblower's claims 'plausible' | Elizabeth Vargas Reports

Now we have folks on the record from both the House and Senate confirming that their UAP committees have heard closed testimony on back engineering programs of crashed UFOs.

Arin, in Opinion | Does the U.S. Government Want You to Believe in U.F.O.s?

They don't care if people think about UFOs so they can keep their top secret military tech top secret.

PM_me_your_vagina_thanks, in Intelligence Officials Say U.S. Has Retrieved Craft of Non-Human Origin - The Debrief

lmao, I see the gullible morons have started coming over from reddit.

axlc, in Find out how to watch Grusch interview today [article title] When Is UAP Whistleblower Grusch’s Full 7-Hour Interview?
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I'm really interested in watching the full interview. This guy's got a whole lot of claims, but not so much evidence to back it up. It's all very interesting though to say the least. Having the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community say that his claims were credible and urgent lends this instance something that feels at least a bit more substantive.

Specifically, I'm very interested in a few things he stated in the interview:

  1. The possibility that these NHI are from Earth, just from a higher dimension than we exist in. Really don't know what to make of this. Would love to know how they came to this conclusion.
  2. That there are multiple NHI, some of which have apparently malevolently killed human beings. When did this happen, how often did it occur, who was involved and what lead up to this?
  3. That there have been agreements made between the NHI and various governments on the planet. What are the nature of these agreements? What, if anything, was exchanged and what was gained for it?

I do have to keep reminding myself that his claims seem to mostly be second hand accounts. He was told things by others, and is coming forward with what he was told. It's absolutely possible that he fully believes he's telling the truth here, but that he was misinformed or taken advantage of others who gave him the information he's revealing.

Overall, I think once the full interview is available, having more information that can be used to poke holes in his story would be useful. If it's still a solid story after that, then we wait for the congressional hearings to begin.

blaine, in Falcon Lake incident is Canada's 'best-documented UFO case,' even 50 years later

Somehow I'd never heard about this one!

blaine, in Intelligence Officials Say U.S. Has Retrieved Craft of Non-Human Origin - The Debrief

This article finally convinced one of my most skeptical friends to take the UAP phenomenon seriously. David Gresch really does seem to have an unimpeachable reputation.

BenDoubleU,
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Lot of other military and government officials backing him as well. Ready to see the next interview segment this Sunday. What a great/interesting week!

blaine, in 12 ALIEN CRAFT In US Custody, Intel Confirms; One Source Claims PILOT Found: Michael Shellenberger

Anonyone have any good reason not to take Shellenberger seriously?

PM_me_your_vagina_thanks,

Same as every other dipshit spouting bollocks: they have zero evidence.

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