Is there another Wagner insurrection coming?

laurens, 11 months ago

@anderspuck keeps being one the best analysts, and he's on fedi as well, recommended follow!

AndersGottlieb, 11 months ago

@laurens @anderspuck Very interesting video. You said the other day on TV, that it has been prepared for weeks or months. I would rather think months, as I dont think you just go to a shop and buy a pantsir s1 system or two. 😉 Maybe Osechkin is right when her said 8 months? An other thing is, did Pregozhin want to become president, or was there some unknown person or group of persons who were going to take over the political scene? I guess in either case it was important to seize Putin fast and

AndersGottlieb, 11 months ago

@laurens @anderspuck when he left Moscow, they decided to negotiate a deal, instead palying cat and mouse all over Russia. 😉

anderspuck, 11 months ago

@AndersGottlieb @laurens I’m not sure what the plan was. I think Prigozhin would have a hard time getting support from the elite, so maybe someone else could enter the scene as president.

AndersGottlieb, 11 months ago

@anderspuck @laurens Maybe Prigozhin was waitng for a que from Medvedev, but he might have been too drunk to send it. 🤣

AndersGottlieb, 11 months ago

@anderspuck @laurens Interesting interview with one that Moscow had claimed was severely wounded or dead. Budanov thinks that the Wagnerites will slowly be sent to Africa.:

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/russia-plotting-to-assassinate-prigozhin-ukraines-spy-boss-tells-us

AndersGottlieb, 11 months ago

@anderspuck @laurens Or maybe he found out he had to be a week in quarentine and have a negative covid test to get close to Putin. 😉

chowderman, 11 months ago

@anderspuck @AndersGottlieb @laurens

Prigozhin was a pain in the arse for the top table for a long time.

At one stage it looked like he and General Armageddon were positioning themselves to take over.

Then Gerasimov was sent in to push Surovikin to one side, and Prigozhin sent to destroy his forces in Bakhmut.

Once Wagner were rendered anaemic from capturing Bakhmut, Shoigu moved to transfer Prigozhin’s army to the MOD.

Prigozhin had to move.

knu, 11 months ago

@laurens
Uhm, 1) I don't think it was a coup against Putin, but rather against the army top.
2) I think it succeeded: the Kremlin bureaucracy is severely disturbed.
3) Putin needs Prigozhin as much as Prigozhin needs Putin.
4) I think Prigozhin has a lot of leverage on Putin, but he does not want to slaughter the chicken with the golden eggs