YSK about Hermit - app that turns web pages to native apps. Works great with Fediverse apps!

NotAPenguin, 10 months ago

Why is this better than just installing a site as a PWA from a browser?

kbin as a PWA from Fennec works great.

vaguerant, 10 months ago

Same situation here. Firefox PWAs are already frameless and full screen. Your Firefox extensions remain active within PWAs, so you can use your ad blockers, user CSS or JS, etc. The only feature from that list that Firefox seems to be missing is any way to add bookmarks.

onepinksheep, 10 months ago

How do you get user CSS on Firefox mobile? I've been trying, but the Stylus extension doesn't seem to be compatible.

vaguerant, 10 months ago

I actually forgot that it's more complicated than I made it seem, that's on me. Firefox does make it pretty difficult to add unsupported extensions.

First off, it's not possible on the stable Firefox Android; officially, it's a feature that's currently only available in the Beta or Nightly Firefox branches, which are provided as separate apps in the Google Play Store (or wherever you get your apps). Personally, I'd recommend the Beta build over the Nightly since it's less likely to have severe bugs. Even if you're just using Firefox Android "normally" and don't need it for this purpose, I still think the Beta is an improvement over the stable version because it enables access to less user-friendly parts of the Firefox interface like the about:config page, where you can mess around under the hood. Alternatively, you could use Fennec F-Droid, which is a fork of current Firefox Android which supports the same feature.

If you want to personally pick and choose which extensions you're able to install, there's a solid guide to the whole process you can follow, but you need to register a Mozilla account, create a custom add-on collection and add all of the addons you want to that list, then switch from Firefox's official approved extension list to your personal custom one, at which point you can start installing any of the addons from your list.

If that's more of a hassle than you're prepared to deal with, you could use somebody else's ready-made custom add-on collection to skip out the part about registering an account and building your collection. You don't have to trust me if you don't want, but I just put together a collection of all the officially supported Firefox Android extensions plus Stylus, which you can see here: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/collections/17632282/Plus-Extras/

To add this or your own custom collection to Firefox Beta/Nightly/Fennec, you'll need to

• open to the three dots menu in the browser (next to the address bar)
• open Settings
• scroll all the way down to "About Firefox Beta" or similar and open it
• tap on the "Firefox Browser" logo/text 5 times
• hit back
• scroll back up a little bit to the new (!) Custom Add-on collection button
• enter your custom collection, e.g. 17632282 and Plus-Extras if you want to use my setup from above
• press OK, the browser will now restart

The next time you go to the Add-ons page and forever until you change it (you can make both fields empty to go back to Firefox's official list), it will populate the available plugins list from there instead of Firefox's.

onepinksheep, 10 months ago

Thanks for the guide! Just got Firefox beta and used your list to get Stylus installed. Don't have a particular stylesheet to use for Kbin mobile yet, but glad to have the option.

theprotodan, 10 months ago

Thanks for the tip on beta vs stable. I use both on my phone and haven't been liking how Firefox stable treated my kbin link as a bookmark not a web app.

SeatBeeSate, 10 months ago

Bookmarks! Something painfully missing from kbin. Also you can change text size, edit framing, enable incognito mode and some other things.

ghariksforge, 10 months ago

Is it on FDroid?

OrangeCorvus, 10 months ago

One thing I don't understand is why when you add a lite app(Reddit, Facebook, LinkedIn), go to login on that site and click to autofill with Bitwarden, why does it show as com.chimbori.hermitcrab?

Does this mean the Hermit app can see your login details for each site?

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/e160e70b-4dc3-43fc-b39a-be74e01183e1.jpeg

drmoose, 10 months ago

That's a very good point. I'm not sure.
I know Hermit is using system's browser which is known to be leaky (that's what tiktok got in trouble for recently) and not as secure as Firefox. If you need security it's probably best to stick with Firefox imo.

zachatrocity, 10 months ago

I use hermit as an alternative approach to multiple chrome profiles because somehow android doesn't support this.

Hermit sandboxes your apps so you can have separate auth for the same "apps".

Hyacathusarullistad, 10 months ago

Tried it for Kbin, and in that specific case the only advantage it seems to have over Chrome's wep app function is the rotation bug. That's great, but most of the features that might be worthwhile are locked behind a paywall.

DarkThoughts, 10 months ago

I don't really see how this adds a whole lot except for removing the frames of the browser app. But in exchange you lose the ability to use addons and their corresponding scripts & styles, while all the extra features are paywalled.

drmoose, 10 months ago

Unfortunately browser apps are really buggy and never really cared for by neither Chrome or Firefox. So, it's always like using a beta feature that sometimes works compared to Hermit which is quite polished.

dantheclamman, 10 months ago

For lemmy, not a huge benefit, but for other less trustworthy social apps, you can run them sandboxed so they can't track your other activity. Though Firefox also sandboxes cookies now too. But hermit has some other nice features regarding bookmarking, user scripts, etc

limerod, 10 months ago

I mean there is no such thing as a free lunch. It has sandboxes, scripts, multi instances, website sync and other stuff. But, I agree most wouldn’t find much value in it. I frequent some websites quite a bit and some in rare cases. Managing them in Firefox and Samsung internet isn’t that seamless. Hermit is like a launcher for all my lite apps which I can launch when needed which is neat.

NightOwl, 10 months ago

That's what I've been using. I tried with firefox, but the scrolling felt laggy on my phone while it was smooth on hermit.

LemmyStartNow, 10 months ago

Is it similar to IceRaven?

dystop, 10 months ago

That's a really good tip! I used Hermit back when Facebook split its app into two and I didn't want a separate Messenger app on my phone.

ghariksforge, 10 months ago

is it on FDroid?

drmoose, 10 months ago

unfortunately no

BrianTheeBiscuiteer, 10 months ago

Native Alpha is somewhat equivalent. Very barebones however.

drmoose, 10 months ago (edited 10 months ago)

Ok, maybe not a "native" app but it's pretty close when configured well!

AlbertHockman, 10 months ago

I just installed it, do you have any tips as far as configuration is concerned?