I'm at a point where liberals are more annoying than conservatives.

Performatively pretending to support movements against oppression is just no longer, in any way, less frustrating than the conservative tendency to just outright support oppression, and that’s all liberals do.

Obviously, conservatives are evil and huge pieces of shit, but I’m at a point in my online presence where I just expect the most brainlet shit from them.

Libs, on the other hand, are just in an indefinite cycle of spouting bad takes that enable oppression, but due to ignorance, they think they’re actively helping fight against it.

As a trans person of color, bigotry from conservatives is phasing me much less nowadays, but racism and transphobia from libs now seems significantly more abhorrent.

Don’t expect me to explain the psychology behind it. This is just how it be like sometimes.

theodewere,
theodewere avatar

nobody gives a shit if little assholes are annoyed

Mokey,
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Youre probably around liberals more often than chuds tbf

CyborgMarx,

It’s worse because of the insidious nature of liberals, danger unknown is worse than danger known

To quote famous socialist philosopher Riddick “It’s always the punch you don’t see coming that puts you down”

TheDialectic,

Liberals love liberalism. Conservatives hate liberalism. So in that narrow view we have more to talk about with one group than the other.

sexywheat,
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I agree with others in this thread, although I think it’s worth noting that conservatives and socialists don’t have much reason at all to interact with each other. What is the point?

Liberals at least pretend to be progressive, and we call them out on their bullshit and then they get mad, and so on.

Plus, a lot of the “more extreme” (by lib standards) communities on Reddit for example have been purged (us included) and they mostly interact with each other for the more part (like on hexbear, or in the case of the right on patriots dot win)

So all that being said, of course libs annoy us more, they are the primary shitheads who we interact with in social spaces both online and off.

Teekeeus,

People who are evil and open about it are less annoying than people who are evil but affix a self-righteous mask to their hideous face

the_post_of_tom_joad,
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Right there with you. Liberals are liars. I hear em talking and i get ptsd cuz they sound like every upper middle manager that brought “the team” together to tell us how the company didn’t make enough to give us raises this year. That fucking smile. That fucking tone.

I hate em

Maoo,
@Maoo@hexbear.net avatar

For me they’ve always been more annoying.

Conservatives can be mask-off hateful and make it easy to hate them back. Liberals lean heavily into their attempted guilt trips and the presumption of being on the side of oppressed people while doing everything they can to support the major oppressive systems.

Dessa,
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I fucking hate em so much

keepcarrot,

It really depends on if you mean liberal establishment, or the ordinary level of liberalism that exists in all members of our society, of which most politically uneducated people are going to be “libs” perjoratively, but not libs generally. At some point or another, the majority does have to be engaged. :/

The establishment (the state?) is super fucking annoying and smug and seems to be unable to reckon with any critique. I’ve noticed they only respond to people who insult them with “ah, an ad hominem I see” and never the longer more conversational/academic responses.

DashboTreeFrog,

I just watched a video basically saying this from “Second Thought”, calling American liberals “The most dangerous thing in the western hemisphere”. youtu.be/33p-8QHZpzY?si=uWb0rns_wiWD-Nqs

But for me, yeah, it’s like, I know what to expect from conservatives and don’t give their words a whole lot of weight, but when people you think are your allies spout horrible stuff, that just hurts more.

ReadFanon,

Conservatives seem to be more overt in their political positions and when they have false beliefs that back up their political positions, it usually isn’t wrapped up in smug condescension where they expect you to immediately fall in line and admire how moral their position is. There’s just much less pretense and hypocrisy with conservatives imo.

A conservative will hate trans people because they don’t like queers and some will even outright say as much. Others will do the whole “protect the children” schtick.

But a progressive will tell you that they support trans people while posting that genderqueer-coded Putin in makeup image without a moment’s reflection and if you ask what Biden has done to actively protect the rights of trans people, they’ll go on a spiel about how Trump is worse and the Democrats would have done something if only they held a majority in the government and if only they actually bothered to fucking appoint Supreme Court judges when they had the opportunity to (including putting RBG out to pasture before she kicked the bucket).

Progressives have a huge entitlement complex and they feel like they’re entitled to your vote, your admiration, your support, and your recognition of their moral superiority.

They give me the ick.

I’d rather deal with someone who just outright says that they hate migrants from South America rather than people who start personally attacking me and making accusations and excuses and tortured ideological justifications for why Trump’s concentration camps at the border were detestable but Biden’s ones are totally permissible.

I’d rather deal with a person who says “I hate you and everything you stand for - I am in opposition to you” while they fuck me over than I would a person who tries to pretend that they’re my friend, that they’re doing the right thing, and that they aren’t fucking me over while they fuck me over. And worse still is they aren’t just pretending that, they actively try and convince me of it and they get outraged at me if I don’t buy into it.

Progressives, except for the ones who are verging on becoming baby leftists, are really fucking sleazy imo.

GrouchyGrouse,

Because conservatives will say shit like “I don’t hate black people I have a black friend.” It’s abhorrent racist bullshit but it’s vaguely honest even though their clumsy line about an exception here or there is probably a lie. Having a bad lie is just a scenic way to telling the truth.

Liberals will say shit like “I don’t hate poor people I have a friend that used to be poor.” It’s that subtle twist that makes your skin crawl.

If you invite two friends to your party and one says “I’m not coming” and the other says “I’m just running late” but never shows up which of the two disappointed you the most?

Infamousblt,
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The reason that libs annoy me so much is because they think they know what’s best for me. Conservatives don’t give a shit about what’s best for me and they aren’t afraid to tell me. They want what’s best for them and who cares about me. That’s easy to understand and easy to just ignore.

But the libs. The libs pretend they want what’s best for me. They don’t want to listen to me say what’s best for me though they want to tell me, prescriptively, what’s best for me without having any context by which they could have any clue what’s best for me. They just “know” it because they have a PhD or it’s common sense or they read about it in the Atlantic or whatever the fuck things libs do. They never want to listen to what the people who the claim to want to help actually say will help them. It’s maddening.

rootsbreadandmakka,

it comes and goes. I tend to hate the ones I have to deal with and are exposed to most often. At various points in my life that has been liberals, at other points it’s conservatives. They’re all shitty though.

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