PizzaMan, (edited )

So what are you doing in a conservative place?

I’m here because I like talking with people I disagree with, I enjoy debate, and because this place would otherwise be an echo chamber. And echo chambers are a big part of why our country is so fucked right now.

Entirely false. Monopolies are always created with government assistance, erecting barriers to entry for competing startups.

That’s one of the ways that monopolies are created, but not the only way.

Take a look at what Walmart did in the 90s and early 2000s. Walmart intentional set profits below the cost to produce their items, and in doing so the local competition could not beat their prices due to differences in business size, and so countless small businesses died. Then once all those businesses died Walmart drove their prices up.

Another way they become monopolies is by buying out the competition. Google, Facebook, Microsoft, and Apple are good examples of this. Any time another tech business looks like it will become profitable or a competitor, they buy it up. From their they either kill it, or they incorporate it to get a wide monopoly. Either way they accomplish their goal of destroying competition.

Then there is the tall monopolies where the entire production chain is all owned by one company, from raw material to finished and sold product. Amazon is a good example of this. They used to only be a book marketplace, then an everything marketplace, and now they are a manufacturer as well. The Amazon Basics brand is replacing loads of items on their store.

None of the above monopoly strategies involve government regulation. It’s all just capitalism. Now I will grant you that government regulation can also be a source of monopolies, but it is far from the only source.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_monopoly

open.lib.umn.edu/…/10-1-the-nature-of-monopoly/

Do you really believe that?

Absolutely. We cannot have freedom if corporations control everything, which they basically do. They control the politicians, the regulation, what you can buy, where you can buy, what jobs are available, what housing you can live in, etc. And they spend every day doing everything in their power to expand that influence.

Not everybody can start their own company. That takes thousands of dollars, a lot of luck, and a lot of business skills. And even if you have all of that going for you, sometimes a big corporation will come buy and destroy your family business through no fault of your own.

And our freedom to move to another job is severely limited, and often moot. If a slave can choose their slave owner, but is still a slave, then they are still a slave. Choosing another corporation to effectively own you doesn’t make you any more free when they are stepping on your neck at company A, B, C, all the way to Z.

Yeah but where did I ever suggest we should do that?

You said that “a major reason for the drug problem comes down to that same '62 SCOTUS decision” so I assumed you were talking about Robinson v California being a mistake, and that we should indeed punish addicts for being addicts. Perhaps I have misunderstood.

Secularism is always a problem, wherever it exists.

Secularism is the lifeblood of our country and modern, developed nations. Without it we would have a whole extra level of oppression to deal with on top of the existing stuff.

In the context of drug (including alcohol) abuse, the only method of treatment we have that’s 100% effective is salvation

Do you have any scientific evidence to verify this?

Because the closest thing I can think of is the 12 step program, which has highly religious connections, often times outright christians ones, and yet their success rate is no better than chance.

The only reason it’s not universally offered as a known cure is because so many people are afraid to advocate for Christianity.

I would suspect it is instead because proselytizing to people who are not in a healthy state of mind and are vulnerable is not an ethical solution, and so medical professionals generally avoid it.

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