10A, (edited )

Reply to "regardless of government size", part 2 of 2:

I don't want to make this a debate over definition, but that isn't anywhere close to the definition of secularism:

I was all ready to reply that the wiki article has been biased by secularists, but then I read it (well, I skimmed the beginning of it), and it seems largely agreeable, and supports my personal definition. The social trend of reduced church membership, and the growing trend of people to openly embrace atheism and agnosticism without a hint of shame, are both completely in line with people "seeking to conduct human affairs based on naturalistic considerations, uninvolved with religion." The article also notes that:

The term "secularism" has a broad range of meanings, and in the most schematic, may encapsulate any stance that promotes the secular in any given context.

That's awkward wording, but does indeed agree with my personal definition.

Atheism and agnosticism is not something to be ashamed about. People should only believe things in which their is sufficient evidence for, and there is insufficient evidence for religion. And atheism is not an embrace of Satan, we atheists don't believe in Satan either.

I know you believe Satan doesn't exist. You're in complete denial of the massive influence he has over you.

You're either with God or you're against Him. That's a really important concept that you seem to keep ignoring. When you reject God, you embrace Satan — even if you're unaware that you're doing so — and even if you think that's impossible — that's what you're doing. And that most certainly is something to be ashamed about.

As for evidence, once you accept Christ, you will finally understand that abundant evidence is everywhere you look.

I'll refer you to my other post that had quotes from the founding fathers explicitly stating that the U.S. was not founded as a christian nation.

…which I rebutted. I wonder if you're missing some of my replies. (Edit: maybe I rebutted it after you wrote this.)

The delcaration of independence is not a legal document or part of american law.

It's the primary document to establish our culture and our national identity. I can't overemphasize that point. When was the last time you read it?

I've spent the better part of two decades debating with christians online in various forums, so I have read quite a lot of it at this point.

Do you suppose your motivation to do that was provided by God or Satan? ("Neither" would be an invalid answer.)

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