10A,

How do you not see freedom as being incompatible with obeying? Not to be glib, but if somebody told you "freedom enables and empowers people to obey their slave masters" or "work will make you free", I'm sure you would recognize the contradiction there. How do you not see the contradiction in what you've said yourself?

I understand how that seems like cognitive dissonance or self-contradiction to a non-believer. Consider Romans 6:22:

But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.

We must be servants of someone, but we have freedom to choose who it is that deserves our loyalty and obedience. True freedom is freedom from sin, as the alternative is to be servants of Satan.

Beliefs as far as I am concerned are not choices. You are either convinced or you are not, the only extend to which we have a choice (if we have free will at all), is over the extent to which we expose ourselves to other ideas.

That's ignoring the whole notion of faith. You can absolutely choose to have faith in anyone or anything.

As nice as that would be on paper, in reality you can't really have one without the other due to societal pressures. If everybody in the room is praying except for you, there is immense social pressure to conform. Allowing prayer of any kind in school will result in what is effectively forced prayer/speech.

True, and I think that's a very good thing. In practice, maybe one out of ten thousand kids would refuse to pray. The few who insist have their freedom to succumb to evil, but peer pressure fosters a burgeoning relationship with God for the vast majority of the students. That's how we always were, beginning before the founding of the country.

Climate change is killing off countless species/animals.

You and I should be cautious of starting new branches of the conversation! But I did ask, and you were just answering me. Suffice it to say I trust that God's in control, and the changes we observe in nature — whatever they may be — are according to God's plan.

I couldn't ethically justify putting a kid at risk of enduring that even if my girlfriend didn't have her current health issues.

Based on your perspective, I understand your conclusion.

Thank you! We aren't official engaged yet, as we have agreed we would only get to that point when we both feel we are financially stable.

Waiting for that mythical living wage? You don't really need money to marry. Life is short.

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