Weekly General Discussion - June 26, 2023 <-> July 02, 2023

haddockseyes, 10 months ago

Maybe a weird question, but has anyone tokenized Steam redemption codes?

LaughingMime, 10 months ago

steam pretty anti crypto/anti nft. It would be a risky move, they'd probably find a way to null anything sold in such a manner

SilentJohn, 10 months ago

the company (steam) doesn’t allow game items that could have real-world value

I'm sorry, but wtf do they consider the steam marketplace?

Steam is just another company that's lived long enough to become the villain. Epic (very pro crypto) will happily continue to take marketshare away from Steam.

Diligent-Mouse3679, 10 months ago

To make this work in a reduced trust, crypto friendly way, you would need some kind of mechanism to prove that the key the seller has is still valid and working with some kind of zero knowledge proof. Otherwise, it is just another web2 key market that takes crypto for payment.

pa7x1, 10 months ago

Ah shit, here we go again

Any decent mobile apps for kbin?

T0Bii, 10 months ago

There's also https://wefwef.app/
I don't think it works for kbin yet, but it does for lemmy.

And it basically looks and feels like Apollo.

kbrot, 10 months ago

It's pretty decent in browser as a PWA. Then coming soon, you'll want to keep your eye on fast-moving app Artemis -- spiritual successor to Apollo, built for kbin/lemmy.

https://kbin.social/m/ArtemisApp/t/121025

The dev is very active on her Mastodon.

pa7x1, 10 months ago

Thanks! Will keep an eye on it, looks promising.

anon, 10 months ago

Clever naming, Artemis was Apollo’s twin sister in Greek mythology.

refugeddit, 10 months ago

Ohhh I like the colors on the charts, come on give me some more

T0Bii, 10 months ago

Will you create a new weekly? :D
I've checked out kbin APIs but to be honest it was very sad.
Maybe we can automate the creation of the weekly.

refugeddit, 10 months ago

On it!

LaughingMime, 10 months ago (edited 10 months ago)

Can't help but feel this is an inflection point.
If you made it this far without losing everything, you are going to make it.

fiah, 10 months ago

it is a kind of self-reinforcing feel good feeling / statement, so whenever I feel something like that I try to remind myself that I’m not being objective. I guess that’s where TA can help, if you can actually stay objective when doing TA

equal-jellyfish1, 10 months ago

Is learning Rust a good idea to get involved in coding in the Ethereum space?

Or anyone with work experience got any advice / want to get in touch I'd hugely appreciate it.

btoast777, 10 months ago

Depends on where you come from, skill-wise:

• If you're more on the web development side, and want to interact with contracts and such, it's probably best to learn a library like ethers.js or viem, since it already uses JS/TS and you just have to learn the concepts of wallets/providers/transactions, etc.

• If you mean wanting to actually get involved with smart contract development itself, to me it depends if you have any other reason to learn Rust. Solidity is typically the most approachable route to go, especially with tools like Hardhat, but if you have plans to do other kinds of back-end development with Rust specifically, then it might make more sense to start there and learn.

equal-jellyfish1, 10 months ago

Thanks for the reply. I'm interested in backend and code efficiency more, but I like both; I guess I'll just start learning and see what fits with my skillset!

fiah, 10 months ago

Rust is not a good entry point for anything right now, I’d say, regardless of your experience level. Either you know you need / want Rust, or you shouldn’t be touching it

instead, I recommend finding a small project that you’re interested in and then familiarizing yourself with whatever it is that is being used in that project. If you have 0 experience then perhaps there’s a 101 course somewhere for the language / frameworks being used in that project, that way you can apply what you’ve learned immediately in understanding the project you’re interested in

permissionless, 10 months ago

Good to see an EthFam alternative here. Is this one of the bigger alt communities besides the Mavs Discord?

kbrot, 10 months ago

I like to think so. Logically there's got to be an Ethereum community on Mastodon somewhere considering how large crypto Twitter was, but I've not found it yet.

equal-jellyfish1, 10 months ago

Hey everyone, checking in here! Probably going to lower my activity on reddit. Nice to see an alternative here

fiah, 10 months ago

things are so quiet right now

dreth, 10 months ago

hey frens! regarding deleting your reddit comment history, what is your chosen way to do this?

anon, 10 months ago

I used https://redact.dev/ and it worked very well.

huzzah, 10 months ago (edited 10 months ago)

Rif is dead, only makes sense to move to a decentralized social media for the decentralized internet of value.

kbrot, 10 months ago

I'll go where my friends (and content) go. Kbin and Lemmy are both very satisfying so far. As for Discord, I don't know if people are mad enough yet to bother. One civil war at a time. Otherwise, I've got my eyes on both Revolt and Comm in the future.

fiah, 10 months ago (edited 10 months ago)

gonna listen to the restaking alignment discussion with Vitalik, Sreeram, Tim Beiko, Justin Drake, Dankrad & Jessy for a bit

www.youtube.com/watch?v=aP9f_1v9Ulc

edit: I’m only about 1/3rd in but this is already a great and enlightening discussion that I recommend everyone who stakes or is interested in staking watch

huzzah, 10 months ago

Also, Justin talked about moving ethereum to quantum resistance in 10, 15, 20 years. Is this an adequate time frame? Sorry for spamming, just a long time lurker from ethtrader to ethfinance to now kbin/lemmy and choosing to post in hopes that this community thrives here.

cryptOwOcurrency, 10 months ago

In my opinion, 10 years is definitely fine, 15 years is probably fine, 20 years would start making me a bit nervous that nation-states might have access to maturing quantum cryptography tech. But I know nothing about quantum tech other than they've been able to work with only a few qubits and that it's really, really hard to add more qubits to the action.

huzzah, 10 months ago (edited 10 months ago)

Sounds like most from the podcast are very cautious about restaking. For what it's worth, I agree and am glad Justin had a plan to neuter it if worse comes to worst. I know we all want to encourage solo staking, but I don't know if this is the healthy way.

cryptOwOcurrency, 10 months ago

What’s the plan to neuter?

huzzah, 10 months ago

The realistically available option is making the staking contract updatable. So instead of getting slashed 1 eth and kicked out of the validator pool, you could be slashed up to 32 eth, making restaking a very risky behavior. The other was removing the slashing conditions through one shot signatures. I'm not gonna pretend to understand how this exactly works. Sounds like fancy cryptography that may only be possible in the future decades.

cryptOwOcurrency, 10 months ago

Well 00:00:00 UTC July 1st just rolled around, and it looks like the third party reddit apps were just cut off.

Reddit is entering a new era, I guess.

refugeddit, 10 months ago

yep, boost app stopped working. Now I will have to find ways to make kbin work

anon, 10 months ago (edited 10 months ago)

Like many others here, I’ve nuked 10+ years of Reddit posts and comments. I have not deleted my account, however, as I worry about Reddit resuscitating my posts against my will, as has happened to others.

I feel genuine sadness at turning the Reddit page, and removing Apollo from my device. I’ve learned a lot from Reddit, including much of what I know now about crypto. On the upside, I will take this as an opportunity to improve my daily habits by spending less time mindlessly doomscrolling, and being more cautious about the risk of doxxing. My contributions to the fediverse will also be more deliberate, meaningful, and targeted. And, I snatched a prized username!

I look forward to being part of this community.

permissionless, 10 months ago

I'm sad about losing 3rd party apps but it feels good to start with a clean slate.

HiPattern, 10 months ago

Just migrated! Hello everyone!

cryptOwOcurrency, 10 months ago

Welcome!

kbrot, 10 months ago

Hi! ..... pattern

refugeddit, 10 months ago

hello! there's dozens of us here!

anon, 10 months ago

Does anyone experience a broken UX of kbin on Chrome iOS? The thread keeps jumping up and down as I try to navigate, the comment box doesn’t stay in focus as I type, etc.

edit: seems to be much smoother on Safari iOS. We’re still a long way from the silky smoothness of Apollo, which I will miss dearly!

fiah, 10 months ago (edited 10 months ago)

you can also try making an account on a lemmy instance, then using a lemmy app (memmy on iOS I guess?)

edit: I’m giving “connect for lemmy” a try now while I wait for Sync to release a version. Getting used to a new UI and/or setting it up to your preferences is always a bit of a struggle, but so far it seems plenty good enough for a bit of literal shitposting

edit: also just try the main page of your instance, installed as a PWA on your phone. It actually works really well

Burbank309, 10 months ago

Hello! Any app recommendations for iOS?

kbrot, 10 months ago

If you're enjoying kbin, you'll want to keep an eye on Artemis - spiritual successor to Apollo based on kbin.

If you're okay browsing via lemmy, there's Mlem on iOS and Memmy via TestFlight. Official reddit apps Boost and Sync are also both switching to the fediverse, Lemmy first.

superpreem, 10 months ago

Memmy or wefwef

_treebeard_, 10 months ago

gm

SilentJohn, 10 months ago

hi

fiah, 10 months ago

hi from the fediverse!

refugeddit, 10 months ago

Price action looking nice, I think we're due for a liftoff soon

fiah, 10 months ago

I don’t. With retail forgetting about crypto again I think we’ll crab for as long as it takes to get to maximum despair

SilentJohn, 10 months ago

we're not at maximum despair? It's been depressing af lately.

fiah, 10 months ago

well yes me too, but I’m not quite at the “laughing like a maniac at the lunacy” stage yet

anon, 10 months ago

On the upside, most of the shady or unsustainable ops like FTX, Terra/Luna, 3AC, BlockFi/Celsius/Voyager, Genesis, etc. are behind us. There are fewer bad agents to purge, and fewer bad news to depress the market further - the glaring exception being perhaps the continued regulatory uncertainty and adversity in the US, and a Binance and/or Tether collapse.

fiah, 10 months ago

Swell Discord got hacked, don’t click on anything and GTFO!

anon, 10 months ago (edited 10 months ago)

As part of the Reddit exodus, I’ve also done a lot of spring cleaning of my Discord servers too. I’ve left all of them, except the EVMaverick one on which I lurk mostly. I am not happy with Discord as a platform either.

For one, Discord threads aren’t indexed by search engines, meaning much of the knowledge is lost on all non-participants. Second, searching within Discord is a pain. Third, there is just too many hacks, scams, and doxxing happening. Fourth, there’s excessive centralization in one platform and company that may eventually go to shit in the name of eternal growing monetization, just like Reddit did.

refugeddit, 10 months ago

I thought u meant EVM discord and had a mini heart attack

SilentJohn, 10 months ago

at this point, I'm done with discord. What a joke.

All the nft projects I was part of are dead anyways. daily gwei and evmav discord seem to be the only active and informative ones.