Daily General Discussion - June 14, 2023

pulisordie, 11 months ago

Just found out about this post-blackout - honestly, would love for us to just move here permanently. I'm super grateful for Reddit for bringing us together. We truly do owe Reddit a lot. But at the same time, the writing is on the wall to take this party elsewhere. And it's in this sub's ethos to not simply give in to the latest whims of a large centralized entity.

epic_trader, 11 months ago

Happy to use this site over reddit as well.

TimbukNine, 11 months ago

Ethereum

zym0x, 11 months ago

So.... everybody back to reddit? I would really hope we could eventually ditch it

minimalgravitas, 11 months ago

Happy to keep using kbin, but I think we need a longer discussion of where we want to community to be based. Personally the value I get from The Daily community is more important than where it is located. Hopefully over the next few weeks we can continue the transition from Reddit, but not if doing so means we splinter EthFinance.

fiah, 11 months ago

I really like the idea of this monero dude: https://beehaw.org/comment/232609

he proposes leaving the original subreddit public but in restricted mode, then using a bot to relay all posts from the real community back to reddit. That way it's still discoverable from people used to going to reddit.com/r/ethfinance, but if they want to participate they'll have to join kbin.social or wherever we end up

newtosh, 11 months ago

That's a good idea imho, great for all the lurkers.
You'll need API access to reddit to make it work though.😂

fiah, 11 months ago

a well programmed bot won't have to make many API calls to do this. Heck, if need be I could cobble something together that forgoes all APIs and just scrapes the reddit website. Hardest part of that would be dodging the captchas

minimalgravitas, 11 months ago

That's clever, yea I like that idea.

hanniabu, 11 months ago

Agreed a longer discussion is needed. I'm still putting together a comparison of about 10 alternatives. There's a number of things that kbin doesn't have, such as a mobile app, which is what people didn't like about other options. So if people no longer actually care about that then there's other options that should be considered as well. Same goes for the mod tools since kbin doesn't have any.

fiah, 11 months ago

I've been happily browsing the fediverse from a Lemmy instance

BuyETHorDAI, 11 months ago

Give it time. I didn't even know about kbin until today because the ethfinance sub was back up. I think most everyone involved with Ethereum wants to use / support decentralized alternatives when possible. Just gotta spread the word that there are even alternatives!

anon, 11 months ago

Nope, I for one nuked my ten-year-old Reddit account. The API fiasco has actually had a silver lining for me. Not only would I refuse to browse through Reddit's official channels (which are algorithmic advertising platforms disguised as community engagement platforms) instead of user-oriented third-party apps such as Apollo, but ditching Reddit has made me realize just how much time I was mindlessly wasting doomscrolling (outside of the /r/EthFinance daily). I still have the muscle memory urge to idly open Apollo on my phone, it's weird but I'm detoxing slowly.

So I'm happy to move over to kbin for now. Its UX is far less addictive, its content is more narrowly targeted, and I visit less frequently but with more intentionality.

Ditching Reddit has been a net positive for my mental health so far and I would encourage others to consider it too.

anon, 11 months ago

I should add: we have our own version of Mr. Ray Shio here: 101 EthFinance subscribers at kbin vs. 87,600 EthFinance subscribers on Reddit = 0.0012.

TimbukNine, 11 months ago

It's going to take some time for people to migrate.

I get a lot of value from my Reddit browsing, but like others I find myself getting sucked into spending too much time mindlessly browsing rather than actively contributing.

For me, once Apollo goes offline my engagement with Reddit will drop off a cliff. I've already deleted several old accounts and this one is more for continuity. I'd like to see a few more subreddits find there way over here.

One approach would be to have a signature that essentially says "I'm posting more on KBin than Reddit these days, find me on https://kbin.social/m/ethfinance" so that people have a continuous easy migration reminder. However, some automods may just start shadow banning people for this type of content.

hanniabu, 11 months ago

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