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fiah

@fiah@kbin.social
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deny them what they would deny you? I don't know but doing it out of spite would be reason enough even before we try to find a rationale like "I don't want them to exploit my likeness in AI"

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I guess, if this means that a spot ETF is closer

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you mean web3 the fediverse or web3 the moneyweb?

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what's wrong, you don't like ze germans?

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for my next trick, I just deleted this on tchncs.de

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for my next trick, I just deleted this on tchncs.de

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it didn't work. Hooray, I guess?!

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damn, the lemmy instance I joined still doesn't want to grab any ethfinance content from kbin

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nope, not working:

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this whole reddit situation has me thinking about how large internet communities can work without running the risk of a centralized actor taking it out. And I'm coming up blank, honestly. The whole federated collection of servers with communities on them like kbin/lemmy reduces impact of any one server / admin going rogue, which is perhaps the best compromise so far. Plebbit with its completely decentralized torrent like system is promising, but probably not accessible enough to grow very large, and it still has the centralized moderators that all other communities have.

Then I was thinking, perhaps the very role of moderator should be decentralized, with your posts being judged by a jury of your (perhaps literal) peers. I just don't see a way of that working out though, unless we start with the assumption that most users are going to be truthful in their judgements and not going to abuse the system. Without that assumption, you'll have to judge the judges, so the chain of events would be like

  • a user posts something
  • another user reports it as "scam"
  • a group of different users get the question "is that a scam"
  • everyone gets their reputation modified according to whether that report was justified and if their judgement of it was correct

for any of that to work at all, there needs to be some sort of reputation system, a critical mass of users that cares about their reputation and a way to randomly elect people from that group to act as a jury (for every single report?). And then of course it should be combined with that plebbit like decentralization for it to be worth it at all. Without a solid

I'm just musing a bit here but it seems like completely removing central points of failure from a large global online community is impossible without also killing the accessibility that would allow it to grow into a large community in the first place. Central community leaders / moderators do so much work, work that would probably drive a casual visitor away if they were asked to do even a small part of it. Sure, an upvote / downvote here and there isn't bad, but if your scrolling experience gets interrupted by a picture of dismembered bodies with the question "is this post gore?" then I wouldn't blame you for putting the phone down permanently.

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I tried connecting to ethfinance from discuss.tchncs.de, it could find the community and loaded the description, but the posts / comments aren't there yet. It seems this federation thing is very variable between the instances

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Is the US trying to kill crypto?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-65861096

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I've been happily browsing the fediverse from a Lemmy instance

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I really like the idea of this monero dude: https://beehaw.org/comment/232609

he proposes leaving the original subreddit public but in restricted mode, then using a bot to relay all posts from the real community back to reddit. That way it's still discoverable from people used to going to reddit.com/r/ethfinance, but if they want to participate they'll have to join kbin.social or wherever we end up

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a well programmed bot won't have to make many API calls to do this. Heck, if need be I could cobble something together that forgoes all APIs and just scrapes the reddit website. Hardest part of that would be dodging the captchas

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it's been a struggle, I even ran out of things to do at work!

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so what happens if you "boost" something?

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Federation, the hallmark feature of kbin, is switched off temporarily. Check out the kbin-alternative Lemmy to see how it works: The homepage of the lemmy.ml server curently also displays threads originally created on the lemmy servers beehaw.org, lemmy.world, and feddit.de. In the comments of such threads, you see accounts registered on a variety lemmy servers, such as lemmy.one, sh.itjust.works, sopuli.xyz, etc. Federation means the servers talk to each other to enable cross-commenting and cross-viewing.

this is the killer feature, and I honestly don't think it's a great idea to try to have a community on an instance that isn't part of this federation (yet). I like kbin, I think it looks better than lemmy and it feels great to use, but not being connected to the other (thriving!) communities out there is probably not worth it

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