Beautiful! Do strawberries ripen a bit more after you pick them? In your basket I spot some not-really-red ones, and now I'm wondering whether I should start picking mine as well.
(edit: on second thought, it might be the photo and/or my laptop screen... But I guess the question still stands.)
Ha! I was trying to figure out what happened with that cross-post because of the different username, but apparently you can cross-post other people's posts then. TIL.
It's basically just a front-end feature that checks for URL duplicates, but it can be nice to make people aware of similar communities where the post was also shared on.
But I agree, on personal posts like these it can be a bit confusing. Next time I'll share my tomatoes :)
They like to grow in hay bales too, I hear. And why is a BALE held together with BAILING wire? Oh . . . TIL it is baling wire - just one "i". I guess bailing wire is what you use to bale your bail money.
Ahhh I had a strawberry plant going absolutely ham, and then we hit a drought and a hose ban, and I don't have water stored up here to water them with... so no ripe strawberries for me! I hope the local birds can still enjoy them.
Solarpunk is not explicitly vegan or vegetarian, in fact it strongly objects to attempts to put the blame for climate-change and environmental destruction on individuals actions aka "don't use plastic straws" etc. that just distract from where the real problems are.
In this case, the problem is IMHO clearly the industrial meat production and the resulting meat over-consumption of our societies and not the chickens someone grows in their backyard for small-scale consumption.
I think you will be fine posting here, but please don't get into arguments with people in /c/vegan.
There’s a lot I’d like to discuss about this, and I think it’s important to discuss. I know the subject of veganism or lack thereof can get heated, but I think we need to have these hard conversations if we want to come together as a community with proper solutions for the future.
Hi! I don’t doubt you have the best intentions, but as a vegan I think what you are proposing is still immoral (although obviously much less so than factory farming). I hope that you are willing to have a discussion with me, if not, feel free to say so or just ignore me.
First caveat, I think vegetarianism/veganism for 99-100% of the diet of 99% of the population is a fantastic goal, but I think we need to have solutions for the interim where society is still coming around to the idea.
What do you you think that would take? What would it take for you personally to come around to that idea?
Even people who want the best for the planet and animals might be intimidated by the prospect of veganism or even vegetarianism, whether or not they have sound reason for this.
I agree that it seems very intimidating. It certainly was for me. I could not imagine myself giving up meat, eggs and dairy. However it turned out to be much easier than I expected.
What I think however, is that when we set the long term goal right at where we want to get to, you are still more likely to have a greater impact. This video explains why that is probably more effective, citing scientific research.
While we’re still reliant on animal meat, I think that moving our animal raising from big factory farms into local smallholdings or even our backyards would help immensely.
Are we still reliant on meat? Maybe some people, but I think most people could switch to a healthy plant based diet if they wanted to. We would have a problem if everyone went vegan overnight, but that is not going to happen. As veganism gains in popularity, demand will change as a result, so will supply.
From an environmental perspective, you could argue that factory farming is better because it is more efficient. It has both downsides and upsides compared to backyard/organically raised animals. It would probably be very hard to create a world where backyard animals are accessible to most people.
Quite frankly, I’m hoping to own chickens soon, mostly so I can have fresh/ethical eggs and share the same eggs with my community. But I’m not averse to raising chickens for meat either.
Although the ethical concerns may be more obvious for meat, there are still concerns for eggs. Even from backyard chickens. That has to do with 1) Where do the male chicks go? Are you going to raise those too? Or will you only buy hens, in which case the male chicks are probably killed by the seller of the hens. 2) Chickens have been artificially selected to produce an insane amount of eggs compared to their wild ancestors. This has negative health implications. For example, they often struggle keeping their bones strong because a lot of calcium is needed for the egg shells.
In my eyes, meat should be something you eat as a treat, and only if you can psychologically grapple with how it got to your plate and give due respect to the animal who provided it.
I think this is better than being completely disconnected from the animals. But I would argue that you can’t respectfully kill an animal that does not need to die.
Like you, I just created a community. The idea of mine is to have discussions like this about the ethics over there. !debateavegan. If you are interested, maybe we can continue over there since I’m not sure it really fits here.
Cool chart but definitely a little focused on western diets. Understandable given the intended audience but some of these regions that don’t show many crops have a rich diversity of domesticated plants that are in danger of being lost. The Andes in particular was a huge hotspot for plant domestication prior to colonization. Lost crops of the Incas is an interesting book on the topic if you want to learn more. Some of them could be important for the future of agriculture I think.
True, but I think one of the oldest continuous cultures on Earth may take exception to that statement! There are plenty of native foods here but defining them as an agricultural crop is difficult after relatively modern colonialism did a number on the country.
Interesting plant, I’m unfamiliar with it. Was it cultivated to the extent that it could be called a crop?
Sometimes this can be a tough question to answer. In California the native people had a form of horticulture that was unrecognizable to colonists until these “wild” food sources began to disappear and anthropologists earned enough trust that they were educated on the traditional techniques. But are these plants domesticated or wild? Or something in between?
You indicated we needed to get to work domesticating crops so we could contribute to the map. I floated the idea that the reason why domestication is hard is that the country has suffered rapid colonisation with, in some areas, up to 98% of forest being cleared so fast that nothing could keep up. With a "hunter gatherer" society utilising a nomadic system of resource control, there was no need for modern domestication; they found a balance in population vs wild resource (which, with hindsight, most places should have done instead - we would have a liveable planet). They moved plants about, managed edible resources with common ag techniques like fire, had food-related festivals which you know about (I linked you a document) etc.
Similar to the American First Nations, yes. Except Australia rather than from the 1600's where there was 200 years of adjustment before hyper-rapid vegetation changes were made, they just were "modernised" (culturally genocided?) in a blink of an eye. All that knowledge was near lost almost instantly. For example, each area had a particular way of making storage bags (dilly bags) and there remain some examples and some knowledge of how it was done (and continues to be). In our area that knowledge is completely lost; no one knows how to make our local style. If you lose the ability to make a cultural item that rapidly, imagine what happened to the plants.
Yes! I already do this in my garden. A lot of colonial species here that are happy to share huge tent-like webs that coat the plants and catch anything that tries to eat it. Anything that gets through then needs to deal with the active hunters like the jumping and lynx spiders.
Then indoors pests are controlled by the species that are usually found in more enclosed ecosystems like the huntsmen.
Thanks for the guide! Have you ever had problems with mosquitos while using this method? Edit: Just reread this and realized I missed the part about covering helping to prevent mosquitos. Thanks again for the guide.
While Macadamias are the only really well known native crop to come out of Australia (before being taken by Cook to Hawaii) there's recently been a push to rediscover a lot of the crops originally cultivated by the first people of Australia. These include Finger Limes, Bush Tomato, Kangaroo Apples, Lilly Pilly, Atherton Raspberries, Murnong and excitingly mamadyang ngalluk or "dancing grass".
I think we talked about that one in another thread but it’s one of my favorite trees. I’m trying to popularize them here in California but our ideas about liability are not entirely compatible with the hazard presented by the cones so it’s hard to find someone who will grow them. I harvested many last year and greatly enjoyed them.
Do they have issues with phytophthora? I have not seen that here though it’s not a common tree.
There is no risk when it's managed. The indigenous climbed the trees before they fell, knocked one off to check, and then manually harvested. This is in that document.
The risk comes from urban trees being unmanaged in high risk areas. If you had a fenced off plot of Bunya, minimal risk.
Yes, there is a disease attacking Bunya in their original native range, Bunya Mountains and the Blackall Range. It's early days but there is a risk that a lot of trees will be lost in certain areas.
Definitely drier here, we get less than half the rainfall of those forests. But people also irrigate a lot and the clay soil means it can be pretty soggy at times.
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