Where To Find Actually Good Search Engines?

I’m kind of tired of Google sending me to the same 3 sites whenever I search for something. If not the same 3 sites it’s 7 others that are so generic and boring I just feel they’re useless. It’s always makeuseof, androidauthority, or whatever other sites that have useful information but I rarely feel like they are saying anything new.

I want to see the results from those small blogs that are sometimes linked here. I can’t come up with one since… you know that’s why I’m asking how to find them, but you know them; they talk about nerdy stuff and are not afraid to get technical in whatever topic they discuss.

Also duckduckgo and qwant do the same thing. If there is a way to curate the results to better fit my needs then that’d be great too!

Spudger,
@Spudger@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

One of the problems I have with search engines when looking for tech solutions is that the results are incredibly out of date. I don’t bother any more and just go straight to the product’s own support forum. Where possible I add the forum’s own search entry to Firefox’s search box. At least I no longer get answers to a problem no one has had since 2018.

smpl,
@smpl@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Marginalia Search perhabs.

Also these are worth mentioning:

  • Mojeek have their own index. The results are occasionally a bit of a mess, but they are very open to input and have an account on Mastodon.
  • Infotiger have their own index and the results are good.
  • Alexandria which use the Common Crawl index.
HidingCat,

Infotiger's not working, did we kill it? XD

hruzgar,

brave search

Schlemmy,

I use www.startpage.com It’s Google without the trackers. Probably not really what you’re looking for but is does the job really well.

lunicoDee, (edited )

It doesnt work with VNP and Tor, I’d choose Whoogle or LibreX as Google frontends, you can selfhost them and they’re open source

RalphWolf,

I like Andisearch.com

sculd,

Qwant

Try it. It has pretty good results even outside the US and is much more private.

lunicoDee,

Qwant is just a bing frontend with a bit better privacy, bit they still share some of tour informations:

Why are you transferring data to Microsoft, and what data is it?

Microsoft provides some of the search results you see on our pages, and provides ads to the keywords in your search inquiry. This means that we need to send Microsoft some information related to your search that allows our partner to return results and ads relevant to that search, and to prevent fraudulent clicks or other activities that are not permitted by our Terms of Use.

In order to detect fraud, Qwant uses a specialized service offered by Microsoft, which does not have access to the keywords of your search. Only your IP address and the browser (your “User Agent”) are communicated to this specialized service to calculate a fraud probability score. Keywords are sent separately to another service that does not know your IP address.

Source

Also, the results are Bing’s so they are biased.

Overall, It’s your choice, bit qwant may ne not the best for results and privacy

sculd,

Its a tradeoff.

I understand Qwant to not perfect but its better than DDG in non-English results and I need it for work.

At least its better than Google…

OneRedFox,
@OneRedFox@beehaw.org avatar

Use a SearXNG instance for free search. Kagi for paid. We’ve unfortunately hit the point where this is necessary.

violetsareblue,

I host my own and am happier with it vs Google. Results aren’t amazing, but they’re at least more well-rounded and I’m not letting google continue to build a profile on me.

the_third,

Kagi is working for me as well. Took my Google history, calculated I’d need the top tier with my number of searches and grinded my teeth, thinking “okay, I’ll see for a month”. Yeah, it works just so well, so 25€ it is.

Father_Redbeard,
@Father_Redbeard@lemmy.ml avatar

I did their one time trial and then moved to the lowest paid tier for a month. Other than not getting ads it didn’t feel much more effective than some selective search-fu with duckduckgo. Any hints or tips on making it more effective? I can see the value proposition, but couldn’t justify it with the actual results I was getting.

yoz,

There’s no such good search engine. I do all my using bangs (duckduckgo terminolgy) or whatever its called on brave and others but maily brave.The reason I use brave is that because they dont pull results from google and bing.

wintrparkgrl,

I love duck duck go but theres one key thing I’ve been missing (or don’t know how to do) with google you can just throw -word or -“a phrase” and it will ommit any result with them

xc,

You have to blacklist the AI farm sites though

01189998819991197253,
@01189998819991197253@infosec.pub avatar

How do you that? They’ve been getting on my last nerve.

sandriver,

Firefox has uBlacklist, might be on Chrome too.

01189998819991197253,
@01189998819991197253@infosec.pub avatar

Thanks for the recommendation. Looks like it only works with Google text search, and I don’t use Google search.

sandriver,

I use it with DuckDuckGo and startpage, it can be configured for a few search engines.

01189998819991197253,
@01189998819991197253@infosec.pub avatar

Oh wow! Ok! I’ll see if it works for me, too. Thanks!

detalferous,

Kagi is really good

You need to pay for it but the free search allowance is enough for me.

Dark_Arc,
@Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg avatar

I’ve also become a big fan. Love being able to modify the ranking of different sites or exclude them entirely.

silentdanni,

Kagi is the only one that consistently gives me much better results than google. The fact that it’s not riddled with ads on the first page was a big incentive for me to give them some cash. It actually improved my productivity at work a whole lot. This actually made me think how shitty google has become when I was preferring results given by an error prone AI compared to just searching for it. Now with Kagi, I can actually find the stuff I’m looking for and only use AI in case I can’t find it there for some reason. Totally worth the monthly subscription for me.

SamVimes,

By free search allowance, do you mean the one time trial of 100, the 300 per month if you’re paying $5, or something else?

detalferous,

I mean the initial 100… it lasted a long time, for me

Dark_Arc,
@Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg avatar

You get a one time 100 searches.

tiago,

I hit the threshold in a week, but it was because I got engaging results.

Ideal search engine for falling into unexpected rabbit holes. It’s scratches the itch of really exploring the web.

Tin,

I did Startpage, then self-hosted searx for a while, then switched back to Startpage, and recently subscribed to Kagi, which I very much enjoy. I do not mind paying a provider for search built with the user in mind rather than their advertisers.

forestG, (edited )

There was a time before google’s search engine, when all the previous attempts had not managed to become the dominant entry point for the web. During that time, we would find interesting web pages through people and/or specific interests. Then, google came, and for a time it was good (read like The Second Renaissance Part I story from animatrix). Ads and SEO were not everywhere yet, content mattered more than those two. So, while I came here to suggest what @bbbhltz commented, when I read your post text I thought that maybe, at least for what we tend to constantly look for news, articles and discussions, we shouldn’t constantly rely on search engines. For example, most technologies have news letters, weekly/monthly magazines, mailing lists, community boards or other forms of group communication through which you can gradually discover better content sources (individuals or groups) on what interests you. Without the search engine service and its cost (direct or indirect) between you and the content.

liv,

During that time, we would find interesting web pages through people and/or specific interests.

I beg to differ, during that time I found most of my interesting content through AltaVista and its weird cousin HastaLaVista, and aggregators like Portal of Evil (though, bad example, I seem to recall PoE was pretty much the same time as google).

forestG,

Well, I guess not everyone had the same experience. Maybe I should have spoken only for myself. It’s not that I didn’t use search engines before google appeared or that I don’t do it now. Just the fact, at least in my experience, that I would get to know way more and way better web locations, related to what interested me, through discussions with other people with similar interests, than I would through search engines. Even when discussions are not possible (like in magazines) or are too massive to follow, it is often, especially in technology-related subjects, preferable to have them archived (through subscriptions) and search directly those archives when I need something specific. It was true for me back when engines didn’t have as good indexes, it is true for me now that their role as businesses is becoming obvious. I guess it also depends on what someone considers interesting.

I did love how altavista translation service was called though, really liked the Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy :-)

liv,

:) yeah it was cool.

Sorry if I sounded disagreeable, I didn’t mean to be. I was just taking a trip down memory lane.

I have to admit if it comes to anything in my field I mostly find good content through discussion groups too.

But for me, in terms of personal interests and some other stuff, the 90s internet was full of static lists of links, even webrings etc. It was great because most people I knew irl who were my age weren’t online. I could only add people from other countries on Friendster because my flatmates refused to use it and my friends didn’t know what it was!

forestG,

Sorry if I sounded disagreeable, I didn’t mean to be. I was just taking a trip down memory lane.

No worries. Felt exactly like that. That’s why my mind went to how I felt when altavista’s babelfish appeared, I did the same thing for a few minutes before responding :-)

liv,

Babelfish was so impressive in its day. Felt like living in the future.

Hey have you ever been to www.neocities.org? It’s reminiscent of geocities and kind of cool.

forestG,

Hey have you ever been to www.neocities.org? It’s reminiscent of geocities and kind of cool.

No, haven’t even realised that Sheldon Brown’s site was hosted there. I used to have a website up on geocities when I was a kid, browsing neocities brings back so many happy memories… Thanks!

amphetaminisiert,

I’ve been using qwant for a while now and I think it’s nice

reka,

If you’re a programmer, might I suggest the brave new world of ChatGPT enhanced search via Phind.com

Even if you’re not, it’s fantastic. It basically takes your input and processes it like ChatGPT but then is trained to run web searches to grab further information and uses that to progress its own internal monologue. The result is a natural language response with search engine like results down the side which are cited within the main response.

lemmyingly,

Is it better than Bing-GPT search?

It feels like for the most part, Bing just parses your query for keywords and performs a search with them. Then it parses the first page and spits out the result. On the surface it looks like a regular web search I would do myself.

reka,

Phind has its own approach with various automated prompts and UI functions. It’s free to use so you can compare the differences in function.

agent_flounder,
@agent_flounder@lemmy.one avatar

Kagi has been working out pretty ok for me. Quality of searches is good. No ads, no promoted listings; it is fee based.

strudel6242,

Happy paying customer here, it’s great to see the innovations they’re making and their interactions with the community.

lovesyouandhugsyou,

I too am a happy customer. The ability to tweak individual site ranking especially makes searching the internet so useful again.

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