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Daryl76679, in What's everyone growing this year?

I’m currently looking at some thyme through propagation. No idea where I’m going to put it, but I’m excited either way!

Kalkaline, in What's everyone growing this year?

What zone are you in OP?

Sightline, (edited )

USDA says we’re 8a (10-15F) but we were at 7F the other day.

owatnext, in What's everyone growing this year?
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I hope to grow some tomatillos as well! I’ve got some seeds saved up.

fubo, in What's everyone growing this year?

It’s a P season. Peas, parsley, potatoes, and Physalis peruviana.

jman6495, in I'm looking for vegetables and cover crops that do well in humid 100F+ weather.

Perhaps basil with the tomatoes?

Sightline,

Cherry tomatoes grew fine over the summer. Most things just needed low intensity morning sun then shade afterwards. I planted a couple trees to help out.

prettybunnys, in Tomatoes can grow back after a freeze

They can grow back, but aren’t guaranteed to do so.

Sightline,

Correct, it seems to be a 25% survival rate. My pumpkin is coming back as well.

Ubermeisters, in Um... it doesn't work quite like that...

Something tells me this is just a nitrogen detector

Track_Shovel,

3 nitrogen?

Creazle, in Um... it doesn't work quite like that...
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Too little or too much what? N? P? K? What about salinity?

SirHery,

But can’t you see just look at the 1 2 3 an see if good or bad.

Creazle,
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Whoop, meter is low, better call co-op and order one fertilizer, please

schmorpel,

To be honest modern farming does work a lot like that

dcat, in Um... it doesn't work quite like that...

so, is it just a pH meter with different labels?

Swedneck, in Um... it doesn't work quite like that...
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bioemerl, in Um... it doesn't work quite like that...

"Modern" farming looks sure like a lot of tech from the '80s to me.

pixxelkick, in Um... it doesn't work quite like that...

So heres the thing with these devices, they aren’t accurate but they are sort of precise.

Every soil is different, but the same soil at roughly the same wetness will fairly precisely read the same way each time.

So in conjunction with a much more accurate readout from lab equipment, you can get an initial handful of readings from your specific patch of land and record what this meter read, so you benchmark the actual spot you wanna hit with the dial for your very specific fertilizer comp you use. Say, mark it with a little marker.

Then for the rest of that season, this little meter should be pretty solid enough because you first took the time to calibrate it against more accurate tools

At which point its not a reader on its own, its merely a well calibrated gauge, calibrated against other tooling.

And that will work fairly well enough for most use cases. The point of the device isn’t to track precisely getting your mixes right, the point is it will instantly point out if something has gone very wrong before it gets worse.

MxM111,
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You change soil wetness, and it will show something completely different.

monotremata, in Um... it doesn't work quite like that...

I guess somebody's bullshit detector isn't working.

expatriado, in Um... it doesn't work quite like that...

my snake oil meter is measuring too much

remotelove, (edited ) in Um... it doesn't work quite like that...

Ok, this is a rough science and likely very inaccurate with the pictured device.

Different nutrients in soil can alter electrical signals passed between two or three different probes that are on these kinds of devices. That can be measured and approximate nutrient content can be calculated.

Proper nutrient testing summary: agrifarming.in/importance-of-nutrient-sensors-in-…

Since the pictured device is likely under $5, I would speculate that it has you wet the soil first before the probe is inserted. Nutrient salts can change the conductivity of water and it is trivial to amplify any change in resistance or capacitance on one of those types of needle meters. It only takes a tiny amount of current. The probes themselves could act as a battery of sorts, similar to how you can make a simple battery with a potato. (I would guess we are around 1mA or less with this setup.)

It’s not a great solution, it’s prone to false readings but its approximate enough for the home gardener. At the very least, you know the soil conductivity: More conductivity is sometimes better than less.

Edit: Looking at that picture, the soil doesn’t look very wet to me. It could explain the “lack of nutrients”.

Track_Shovel,

I haven’t ever seen those nutrients sensors you link to, and I’m highly suspect. The closest thing I’ve seen are XRF guns and those are for metals.

The whole fertility sensor/probe thing is a pipe dream IMO. Soil heterogeneity is tremendous.

If you want an accurate reading, a lab is a must. Even then, parameters such as soil texture can vary by 10 to 30%

And electrical conductivity is never good. It’s routinely screened for along with SAR

remotelove, (edited )

Oh, that $5 piece of crap is absolutely telling you a number that has very little value. If you use it properly and the needle pegs in one direction or another, you probably want to invest in a decent test. (Even pegging that needle doesn’t mean much, TBH.)

ISM sensors are typically used in hydroponics for disolved O2 and are “decently” priced. The ones that are available for nitrates and such are generally considered lab equipment and are not cheap.

This meter is not for the application we are taking about, but it’s close enough: hannainst.com/nitrate-photometer-hi97728.html

Totally agree. Send it to a lab if you need real results.

averagedrunk,

It’s not a great solution, it’s prone to false readings but its approximate enough for the home gardener.

I have a small handful of plants. It’s good enough for me. I completely agree that if it were my livelihood I would be sending it off to a lab. If something happens to my garden I get less salsa and have to buy tomatoes at the store. If something happens to a farm they’re fucked for the year unless they get on top of it.

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