It's so much easier to comment on Lemmy because it isn't a toxic cesspool waiting to tear you apart
It feels like people are a lot nicer here than on Twitter and Reddit, and even when people disagree, it’s generally civil and not an all-out flame war. Also, there’s no algorithm promoting outrage all the time.
For me, the anticipation of toxicity was a huge deterrent for me ever participating in real discussions, but here I feel like I can be myself.
Yeah I’ve had the misfortune of expressing the wrong opinion on a politics community. It was about as toxic as any r/Politics submission, including someone telling me to kill myself.
You downplayed the current laws against LGBT+ people and climate change, so I'm not sure why you are surprised you were downvoted. That's misinformation not "just your opinion man"
Having skimmed over their posts, while I also don’t tend to agree with their views, nor the spreading of misinformation, that doesn’t justify anyone telling them to off themselves. Hopefully they reported that person, as that shouldn’t be tolerated in any instance/community imo.
I’ve taken to just auto blocking anything to do with politics on Lemmy now. The beliefs on here are more radicalized than Reddit, and I thought they were bad.
This is probably a good idea. I did the same on Reddit. Some people just want to be toxic. I’m just disappointed to realise it wasn’t Reddit causing the toxicity. It’s the users, and they’re here too.
Honestly it’s just like Reddit. The fact that you haven’t had bad experiences yet just means your beliefs matches the ones most recurring on Lemmy, which are mostly left/woke leaning.
If you simply question or disagree with people here it’s the same as Reddit, or sometimes even worse.
Reddit admins fucked up real bad, but all that toxicity was solely user fault. People behave like real dicks when they find their identities hidden behind a nickname, that’s just common knowledge.
If you want to be mentally sane and happy probably better avoid Lemmy and every other social network. People are garbage.
I find the quality of content to be way higher. People aren’t desperately trying to stand out or fit in with a crowd.
You’re right about the mods, though. All it takes is a large number of reports and they will usually come up with a reason to reprimand you, even if you aren’t breaking any rules.
This, of course, has been and will continue to be abused to drown out people with dissenting opinions.
I’d often type out a comment on the other site and the. I’d decide not to post it purely because I knew that I’d be flamed for daring to have an opinion of my own.
I disagreed with someone once (politely) over something extremely minor and got told to go die in a fire. So why would I post just to get shit like that?
Here though things do seem nicer and I really hope things stay that way. My fear is that with any large number of people you’re going to get those arse-hats who ruin it for others, but maybe they’ll stay on Reddit where they can act like wankers together.
I stopped regularly using reddit years ago once i realized it was just a boring hivemind circlejerk. I’m pretty new to this lemmy and fediverse thing and I think it’s really cool and refreshing how down to earth and not circle-jerky the communities are. The potential for something awesome is exciting.
They always do. Though in lemmys case I imagine it’ll be bigger instances running off with delusional admins thinking they’re some exception to the rule.
Also, pre-digg, most people used webforums like vbulletin or phpbb. Which, honestly, I prefered to this centralization of information you have today on reddit/discord/etc.
I already see it and it bums me out. People are already stepping in a discussion just to be aggressively mean for no reason. I hope we can reply to them with patience instead of feeding the monster (or, just, y’know, don’t engage)
Grumblegrumble this is our chance to be different!
I’ve been trying my best to reply to such comments with kindness and what they could have done to make their comment more constructive. Lot’s of people react on emotion and sometimes they just need a bit of guidance to engage constructively. Others that are both unhelpful and rude get a report also.
Yep, that and people bringing along all the mindless echo chambers and circlejerking I was hoping to leave behind on reddit.
People hated reddit for these reasons, and many of us left reddit for these reasons, and now these toxic assholes are doing everything they can to make lemmy just like reddit.
I wish those people would just stay on reddit. If they want to make lemmy like reddit why did they even leave??
So… people should disagree with each other just to disagree?
If you’re talking about biased mods, then I completely agree. But as far as the community, of course people are going to agree with what’s popular and disagree with what isn’t.
This is a real braindead take and I’m not sure what point you are trying to make here. If you can’t tell the difference between circlejerks and echo chambers, and people simply discussing things they mostly agree with, that’s your own problem.
Doesn’t mean it’s not a real issue or a thing that even exists, that’s just a silly thing to even say.
Give it time. Should it become more popular the trolls will come. In fact I’ve seen a few already (some anti Ukraine posts makes me think those were professionals trying to shift opinion, but what do I know).
I sincerely hope it doesn’t. If Lemmy reaches the same levels of toxicity as reddit then I will be moving to a new platform with less people and hopefully less toxicity. Lemmy has opened my eyes to the fact that I don’t have to constantly deal with assholes in order to engage with people online. There are tons of good quality, friendly communities online, you just have to find them.
It also comes down to what instance you happen to visit. Lemmygrad for example is a legit tankie cesspit. There’s currently a popular post about Greta Thunberg and it pretty quickly devolves into calling her a traitor, because she met with Zelensky: lemmygrad.ml/post/902175?scrollToComments=true . Among other things you will find plenty of justification for the Russian invasion and their war crimes. And the admins openly support trolling outsiders. I’m on the left and I don’t have an issue with Marxism or the concept of communism, but fuck that instance.
I had no idea what “tankie” even was until recently. The internet is so weird.
I think the broad problem with reddit and the like, which will leach into Lemmy with time unless we change things, is the slicing and dicing of the topic that is to be talked about.
When you do this (“oh sorry this is r/typewriters, you should post in r/typewriter_repair instead!”), you treat people as vehicles for content. We make echo chambers and don’t communicate as whole individuals.
When I was on Reddit, I responded to a guy in latestagecapitalism who was talking about how Stalin wasn’t that bad, and how everything we hear about the Soviets is fake information, made up as Western Propaganda.
I chimed in telling him I’m Romanian, and how my grandpa was in WW2. I told him that my grandpa would always tell us anecdotes about how the Russians acted vs everyone else, and if anything it was worse than what we usually think of. Then I said that Stalin is too well known for it to all be fake.
Well the response I got was the guy called my grandpa a liar. Then like 10 minutes later, I got permanently banned from the subreddit.
That is when I learned what a Tankie was lol. And that the subreddit was infested with them.
Didn’t Romania fight on the Axis side for the majority of WW2? Wouldn’t fighting against the Soviet Union potentially colour someone’s thoughts on them?
It’s complicated. A military coup happened against the King and put fascists in power. That’s when getting friendly with Germany happened. Later on the King regained control and that’s when Romania switched sides to the allies.
And lol no, I don’t think fighting on the axis is the reason why people have a sour view on Russians and the USSR. I think the way the Soviets treat people is the reason they have a bad reputation.
You think it’s an accident that as soon as the USSR broke up the bordering countries tried to join NATO asap?
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