dangblingus,

She wasn’t on her death bed. She was a mobile old lady who was flown out to a marine vessel to talk to scientists. She dies in her sleep at the end of “old age” and isn’t suffering from any ailment. Also, the story is about how a poor boy showed a rich girl a different life and rescued her from her abusive fiance. What woman wouldn’t want to be rescued from an abusive relationship by 20 year old Leo on the world’s most extravagant cruise ship? Then at the end after she dies, she sees her long lost love in the context she remembers him: dapper, well dressed, and surrounded by gilded beautiful fixtures and things at the stairwell.

AlexisFR,
@AlexisFR@jlai.lu avatar

Necro.

PeriodicallyPedantic,

More like… Why do men write female characters like this?

beardown,

Perhaps James Cameron in particular doesn’t have the most grounded understanding of human relationships, especially from a woman’s perspective

NigelFrobisher,

And she chucked a big part of her kids’ inheritance off the boat!

InputZero,

Considering how wealthy Rose’s family is portrayed in the movie, I’m going to assume that her children did just fine without it.

Anticorp,

Rose left that family after the sinking of the Titanic. She gave it all up and started a new life for herself, under a new name. But she did find a measure of success as an actress, so she was probably doing alright. No where near her previous wealth, but comfortable.

dangblingus,

That blue diamond alone would have been worth millions. Not to mention the chain and all of the other diamonds flanking it.

TheBlue22,

4chan media literacy challenge (100% impossible)

dudinax,

Because it’s a movie

xantoxis,

As if a man wouldn’t be having the exact same fantasies

blazeknave,

Right? Have you seen Leo?

theangryseal,

Oh yeah, I forgot it was Leo for a second.

He can draw me anytime.

theangryseal,

Well, the whole movie centered around her memories while people explored the wreck site (if my memory is correct, I haven’t seen it since around 2000). It would be like if you were walking around your old high school at the end of your life and someone gets pissed because you remembered that day the new girl banged you under the bleachers and then died in a gymnasium fire.

What else was she supposed to think about?

Bears_Koolaid,

That’s a fantastic analogy lol

ShustOne,
@ShustOne@lemmy.one avatar

She was involved in a major historical event where the person she thought she’d be with forever died right in front of her.

Also she’s telling the story of the Titanic to people who asked her to tell the story about her time on the Titanic. Why would her kids or family be relevant? This is just rage bait.

Daxtron2,

She also wasn’t on her deathbed lol she was just old

Anticorp,

She died in bed at the end of the movie, so technically she was on her death bed every night that she slept on that ship.

xantoxis, (edited )

Even besides all that, why does any of this reflect on other women? incel ass shit

Edit: judging by the voting, a bunch of incels found this thread

Bayz0r,

I think the post is dumb but the logic is that it reflects on other women because millions of them think it’s a good love story (as per the post).

xantoxis,

Sure, but millions of women are able to separate fiction from reality, and thus are able to appreciate a story which didn’t really happen, unlike this anon

PowerCrazy,

Hmm, yea it’s probably the Anon who doesn’t understand reality and fiction, not the people taking a greentext at face value and making sexual judgements.

eskimofry,

Did you not read the banner before coming here? The whole point is to make fun of 4chan, perhaps find a few diamonds in the rough.

PowerCrazy,

4chan makes fun of itself you arn’t going to add anything there. The purpose of this community “greentext” is to take a specific style of post that 4chan uses (that is almost certainly an absurd joke and not the secret desires of the poster) and join in on the joke. Kind of like how “memes” work.

eskimofry,

Except, this logic falls apart immediately when you start understanding that she was in love with the dude and he died trying to save her. That’s something you remember your whole life. This is just a bad unhealthy take from OP and the downvoters here.

Auzy,

Why would anyone get angry about this lol

Subverb,

Rose had adopted a new life under an assumed name after the sinking. Her family wasn’t even aware that she had been on the Titanic, much less met what she considered her soulmate.

Rose allowed herself to tell the story that had weighed on her for 70 years, nearly her entire life, because she knew she was nearing the end of her life.

That’s why her scenes are so powerful.

griD,

OT:
I can’t find the critique of this movie from a classicist viewpoint anymore. That was one interesting read.

Waraugh,

I’m so confused because I thought Rose was an amalgamation but you’re speaking of a singular individual in a factual way that makes me wonder how wrong I am. Is there really a Rose from the titanic that aligns with what you’re saying?

Sekrayray,

This is a really good example of me feeling really one-sided about something and then having my mind changed by the comment section. Somehow I didn’t think about the fact that being on the Titanic sinking would be a pretty pivotal memory in someone’s life lol.

pearsaltchocolatebar,

Also, she was on a ship that was examining the wreckage, and iirc she was basically being interviewed.

UsernameIsTooLon,

What 4chan does to the chronically online lmfao

Soulg,

Makes them willing to change their view when new evidence is presented? Lol

UsernameIsTooLon,

No, be one sided on an argument and believe you’re right lol

driving_crooner,
@driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br avatar

She’s also a fictional character wrote by a man.

PolandIsAStateOfMind, (edited )
@PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml avatar

Somehow I didn’t think about the fact that being on the Titanic sinking would be a pretty pivotal memory in someone’s life lol.

Thanks to the Polish writer Andrzej Pilipiuk when i hear anything about Titanic sinking first thing i think is that it sunk because a moonshine aparature exploded in cargo hold and they just lied about iceberg because they weren’t insured for that.

brianary,

It was also the time when she watched a man die to save her life.

z00s,

He didn’t even have to, mythbusters did a show on it lol

WeirdGoesPro,
@WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Idk why you’re being downvoted. They did, and you’re right. A door of that size made with accurate wood could hold two adult men out of the water when they removed their life vests and put them under the door.

If Jack and Rose had done the same, they would have increased the chance of survival for both of them by both being out of the water and having double the body heat to warm each other.

rambaroo,

How would you keep the life vests under the door in an ocean?

KevonLooney,

They have straps to tie them on you. You tie them together and hold them under the door. Or use any of the other crap floating in the ocean. Literally anything could be held in a shirt or pants. You can inflate your pants themselves by tying the legs together and blowing air into the waistband.

NoSpotOfGround,

I imagine it would be quite difficult to tie knots with frozen limbs and fingers, in the dark. And trying to get a second person on the door would have required the already freezing girl to dip into the water. I can see why they wouldn’t try it.

Grellan,

Because you missed in the same episode during that part where David Cameron said that Leo’s character dying was what had to happen. That was the story. It is a pointless gotcha, based on the movie not spending the time to determine the exact amount of buoyancy of a ship wreck.

ShustOne,
@ShustOne@lemmy.one avatar

They try in the movie and it causes them both to be in the freezing water. It wasn’t about him being able to float, it was about them both not freezing to death.

WeirdGoesPro,
@WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

They don’t put the life vests under the door in the movie, which is the key detail tested by the Mythbusters.

Anticorp,

Did they come up with that idea while floating in sub-freezing water, after having just experienced multiple near-death scenarios, while afraid for their lives? The reality is that it’s easy to solve a problem in a lab, not so much under duress.

WeirdGoesPro,
@WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

You just described an average day on Mythbusters.

Anticorp,

My favorite episodes are where they’re testing the prowess of some legendary athlete or fighter, and they, being two out of shape nerds, would try the feat, be unable to do it, and be like “MYTH BUSTED!”. I was glad to see when they called in an actual master of ninjitsu to test if a ninja can catch arrows, after they themselves were unable to even get close to catching one. That ninja actually did it too! Snatched some arrows right out of the air.

gohixo9650,

yeah because being in the open ocean in subzero temperatures is the moment that one will think “sure, better take my life vest off and strap it on this fucking door. I bet it will hold the door afloat and I will always be attached to this door. What can go wrong?”

eskimofry,

Sure but they didn’t have Mythbusters on air when the Titanic sank.

z00s,

No but Jamie was having his 60th birthday on the Titanic at the time lol

spaphy,

Lots of sensitive susans in the comments. If you don’t like it block it and move on. There’s too many people on lemmy that want to dictate what everyone can and can’t see rather than moderating what they themselves see.

Chriszz,

Lemmy is a pretty bad echo chamber at the moment. Here it seems like there’s only ever one right opinion.

Anticorp,

Amerika bad. Amiright?

ZzyzxRoad,

Apparently that’s the misogynistic one, based on a whole series of posts on the front page at the moment and the hundreds of gross comments that have followed.

myxi,
@myxi@feddit.nl avatar

I don’t get what’s up with people nowadays throwing up the adjective “misogynistic” everywhere, when 80% of the time they’re really not seeing something misogynistic, but rather some ideologically conservative crap.

_lunar,

conservative ideology is misogynistic

myxi,
@myxi@feddit.nl avatar

Sexism is not misogyny.

_lunar,

misogyny, as defined by webster, is “hatred of, aversion to, or prejudice against women.” we use the term to make it clear that this contempt and prejudice is against women specifically.

conservative ideology seeks to actively harm women who dare be anything more than servants to men. to have contempt for a group of people unless they’re effectively enslaved is to have contempt for that group in general.

_lunar,

you’re getting downvoted but you’re fucking correct.

this place is becoming just like reddit in that people dig up any sort of injustices they can find (or fabricate) toward men and then incorrectly blame it on feminists and women without so much as a citation. hateful misconceptions then spread like wildfire because these guys just take anything that re-affirms their biases at face value without any critical thought.

_lunar,

seeing pushback against stupid-ass opinions is the exact opposite of an echo chamber, but it would be an echo chamber if everyone was just agreeing with the post.

willya,
@willya@lemmyf.uk avatar

PREACH

z00s,

If you don’t want to see the “sensitive susans”, block them and move on.

spaphy,

got it you’re blocked lol.

z00s,

Sure, Susan

ShustOne,
@ShustOne@lemmy.one avatar

How is recommending someone to not interact with a post they don’t like because you don’t like a different opinion anything but being a sensitive Susan yourself?

spaphy,

why the fuck you going around on the internet telling people what they can and can’t do.

averyminya,

They didn’t tell you to or not to do anything, you should reread what they wrote.

ShustOne,
@ShustOne@lemmy.one avatar

I didn’t tell you to do or not do anything. I’m criticizing you for doing the very thing you criticized someone else for doing. Also you don’t follow your own advice of downvote and move on.

eskimofry,

That’s hypocritical. If you can’t take it then don’t dish it. Calling out obviously bad greentext is part of this community.

_lunar,

what the hell are you even talking about? nobody is calling for this post to be removed. criticism isn’t censorship.

calypsopub,

Speaking as a wife and mother, it’s likely the only time in her adult life that somebody focused on her wants and needs instead of expecting her to cater to theirs.

z00s,

Sounds like you have a martyr complex

eskimofry,

Ignore the incels. They think it’s a privilege for women to be even heard.

feedum_sneedson,

You have a bad marriage.

eskimofry,

Isn’t that obvious from the comment?

feedum_sneedson,

Yes - my point is I do most (almost all) of the cooking and cleaning because I love my partner. In fact I just washed her underwear by hand in the sink. Her needs are meticulously attended to, it’s not the default in heterosexual relationships that a woman be emotionally neglected.

spaphy,

Following that thought through fully: and her wants for those two days happened to be dick from a homeless man.

Lol. I get what you’re saying though.

Anticorp,

There’s a difference between a wanderer and a homeless person, a massive difference.

stebo02,
@stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

also to be a naked model for a painting

eskimofry,

Sure bro, but when a dude does it you’re like “He is my role model!”

edit: Not talking about “you” the commenter, just the double standards of people.

Kecessa,

Maybe you should get a better husband

exocrinous,

Maybe she got married when she was young and naive and was pressured by her family to settle down with the first half decent man she met. And then by the time she grew up and learned to think about her own needs, she already had kids who needed looking after more than she did.

Perfide,

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  • Kecessa,

    The way that person is speaking I don’t think it’s only from the point of view of the fictional character.

    Daft_ish,

    Call me crazy, but hear me out, being on the titanic when it sunk might be a life defining moment for some one.

    meldroc,

    Of course, because a forced arranged marriage to a narcissistic fuckwit would have made her life so much better… /s

    UnverifiedAPK,

    So we’re just ignoring the children then?

    Zorque,

    Yes.

    ShustOne,
    @ShustOne@lemmy.one avatar

    Do you remember what the context is for her telling the story in this movie?

    Lemminary,

    Ain’t that some incel shieet

    Sheeple,
    @Sheeple@lemmy.world avatar

    What do you expect? 4chan is infested with incels

    OurTragicUniverse,
    OurTragicUniverse avatar

    Why does it have to be spread here?

    Sheeple,
    @Sheeple@lemmy.world avatar

    Excuse me I can’t read that. What did you mean?

    OurTragicUniverse,
    OurTragicUniverse avatar

    Why do incel 4chan posts have to be spread on the fediverse?

    AstralPath,

    You’re literally responding to a post in a community named greentext. What do you expect? Just block the community and move on.

    Sheeple,
    @Sheeple@lemmy.world avatar

    Tbh I feel like a point should be made of sharing without adopting the culture. I found that oftentimes greentext centric communities end up with similar vile behaviors and language usage.

    A common sentiment is that apparently it’s okay to use slurs. Lemmy greentext did a good job at not doing that so far.

    stebo02,
    @stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    because this community is c/greentext, block this community if you don’t want to see it

    pearsaltchocolatebar,

    It’s not even true. She was literally on a ship that was examining the wreckage, so talking about it was relevant.

    You can see the wreckage on the screen in the screenshot.

    ShustOne,
    @ShustOne@lemmy.one avatar

    But bro how am I supposed to virtue signal to my fellow misogynists if I have to take things like context into consideration?

    PowerCrazy,

    Most people laugh and move on, the only “virtue signaling” are comments like yours lol.

    ShustOne,
    @ShustOne@lemmy.one avatar

    I guess if you read this and forget the context of the movie you could find it funny

    eskimofry,

    People with context wouldn’t find this “Joke” funny at all.

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