hedgehog,

The amount of racist white supremacist and capitalist bootlicking lies and reasoning on this page is astounding. TV Tropes are fucking crackers. Maybe edit bomb the page?

I’ve never watched the referenced show, but I read over the TV Tropes page and I’m confused about why you think the page is full of racist / white supremacist content. It sounds like the show does, but the page itself is just a list of tropes that the show employs with a minimal amount of commentary.

Is it a white supremacist lie to say that the show uses this trope?

Always Lawful Good: How America, the Republican party and Falun Gong is portrayed in both here and America Uncovered.

Is it racist to indicate that the show is racist and that it specifically uses these tropes (among others)?

Fantastic Racism: America Uncovered and this show both use racist/sexist/homophobic jokes Played for Laughs.

French Jerk: The stereotype is used as an example when France is brought up.

Greedy Jew: How Jews are portrayed when mentioned. Saul Alinsky and George Soros are both portrayed this way.

The page is critical of the CCP (e.g., see the “Truth in Television” note on the “Commie Nazis” trope), which isn’t necessarily capitalist bootlicking, as plenty of people are critical of the CCP - but otherwise it doesn’t take a stance. It doesn’t explicitly criticize the show for having racist, nationalist, conservative content, but it also doesn’t endorse it. It doesn’t criticize communism, either; it simply says that the show is anti-communist.

What am I missing here?

parpol,

Op is either a Chinese bot account or paid propagandist. We all hate late stage capitalism, but OP is trying to redirect that hate into censoring criticism of the Chinese Communist Party.

Omega_Haxors,

It’s OK. This isn’t a nazi-controlled community, you don’t have to cloak yourself in plausibly deniable liberalism to not get banned.

EDIT: Oh. You’re serious? Disappointing.

parpol,

I had a similar conversation with someone on hexbear and they not only banned me, they blocked my entire instance.

Omega_Haxors,

Maybe it’s because you carry an air of neo-fascism around you, that might be a good thing to get checked. Also last time I checked programmingdev got defedded because their instance owner was publicly dying on the hill of transphobic hate. It’s beyond reasonable that any trans-positive instance wouldn’t want to have to engage with that kind of garbage.

parpol,

Guess who benefit the most from people watering down the terms Nazi and fascist.

You saw someone calling out a literal CCP shill, and immediately thought “he is fascist”.

“Trans-positive” I’m sure trans-people live very happy lives in Russia and China. No forced conversion therapy or threats of violence anywhere .

Omega_Haxors,

people watering down the terms Nazi and fascist.

Literal nazi talking point. Apologize now or block & report. I won’t tolerate that shit and neither will the mods.

parpol,

Watering down terms is a real thing, and you’re doing it. Now either own up to the fact that by doing so, you are helping nazis become accepted to society, or go cry to your mods and hide your ass behind a block, and pretend nothing happened.

I am neither associated with nor tolerate any form of fascism whatsoever, and you’re trying your damn hardest to associate me with it because you are incapable of imagining that maybe you can be anti-fascist and anti-authoritarian at the same time.

“Apologize now or block & report” is the biggest manchild comment I’ve ever heard on Lemmy, lmao.

Omega_Haxors,

The only good fascist is a dead fascist and I will “water the definition down” way past the point to include you in it.

Thanks for ruining my day and making me feel like shit. Justice will come to you in due time.

cayde6ml,

A death threat from a neoliberal, how unsurprising. Scratch a neoliberal, and a fascist bleeds.

I can now respond in return that I look forward to when the racist crakkker ass neoliberal western imperial order collapses under the weight of it’s fascist projecting contradictions, and that you enjoy being game-overed by a combination of white supremacist violence, war, disease, or suffering for 50 years as your country’s air becomes even shittier, and your lungs black from all the smoke, pollution, toxins, while you beg your bosses for a day off work.

Meanwhile, the East and Global South will rise up in revolt and begin laying the groundwork for establishing socialism. China will enjoy vastly improved living standards and technological progress, and clean air and fresh food and water, as it becomes a luxury in the west. And Chinese people will embrace further deepening socialism and actual democracy rather than capitalist dog and pony shows. I hope your last goddamn breath is you blaming China for not bowing down to your capitalist delusions.

Omega_Haxors,

Neoliberal? Death threat? (from the other comment) Racist? Why is that the take-away you got from that exchange? I agree with what you’re saying but am completely baffled by what I did wrong to present myself so horribly that you think i’m a liberal fascist.

Maybe i’m just that irredeemable that even when i’m doing everything right people will still see me as a monster because this isn’t the first time this has happened and I doubt it will be the last.

cayde6ml,

Oh my bad, I apologize vehemently. I thought your first comment was calling me a fascist. I didn’t see that you were responding to parapol. I feel like shit now. I thought you were on the neoliberal’s side, I’m so sorry. I feel awkward now.

Omega_Haxors,

Well I had a good moment of self reflection regardless. I have no idea what the right thing is but man I can’t keep doing this. The internet made me the way I am and i’m never going to become a good person by repeating the same shit that got me here.

cayde6ml,

Don’t blame yourself, I feel horrible. Like I almost made you cry, and damn I feel so guilty. When I saw your comment, I thought you were accusing me of using neoliberalism to cloak racism.

Omega_Haxors,

All the more reason to cheer when the empire finally fucking falls. I don’t drink so I’m buying Champaign just so I can pop it.

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